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This is a normal post In order to be fair you should hate everyone who attempts to influence government then
like lobbyists, pressure groups, all the other religions, voters...
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Doesn't that depend tho
on how 'reasonable' their issues are?

Like CAN they be reasoned? Not just 'My God says these people should die!' and suchlike.
 (I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Its interesting
But I tend to feel that an awful lot of these issues are based on convictions at least as flimsy or as self interested. And you look at the influence that are much more malevolent like oil companies, or Rupert Murdoch, or BAE systems, or foreign treaties, and I think you'll realize that until these dragons are slayed the lunatic fringe of the Religious community are nothing more than a distraction and any time spent knocking them is "low hanging fruit" at best, and serving the interests of the real bastards in the world at worst.
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post No, not at all.
As WiL implied; that's putting religions on a parr with logical, critically-reasoned arguments from serious pressure-groups/other political groups &c.
Which they're clearly not.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post You have a lot of faith
"Logical, Critically reasoned argument" is a God I just can't take seriously.
"Self interested Bastards who have the world just the way they like it and want to distract the population with trivia and the illusion of rationality while they pull the strings of power" is what rules the world.
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh you.
It's an interesting & valid point. However, I don't think the fact that there are self-serving, greedy, money-grabbing bastards attempting to manipulate policy negates the evil influence of religion at all. Which, typing it, is too obvious to state.
In summary, I agree with you, but think religion's malignant influence is more than a distraction...
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 11:33, , Reply)