I would say you can only impose things
on pre-existing desires.
Sounds to me like you believe in the blank slate, whereas I think most of personality is genetic.
Do you think that if you raised kids in an identical manner, there would be no differences (taken on averages) at all based on gender? If so, I ask you whose theories you are going on there.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 8 Feb 2013, 17:02,
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i think the jury will never return a verdict on the whole nature/nurture thing...
it's a bit of both surely? pooffy pants. and anyway 'personality' is so multi-faceted that while i'm happy to accept that sexuality can be predetermined and is not a choice, although it surely can be, i think most or many of the most superficial, and therefore most obvious, aspects of personality are massively influenced by nurture not nature.
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I say it is both,
but you seem to be saying it is entirely nurture.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 8 Feb 2013, 17:08,
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and i quote you.... 'I think most of personality is genetic'...
you mis-perceive me. all i was saying was that gender is a social construct and then you went and started talking about animals.
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Well, I'd rephrase that as
'I think most personality traits have a genetic basis'. Yes, you need society to trigger them, and that is where I'd say social constructs come into it. However, I doubt society can create them.
I felt you were saying that there are no non-physical gender differences at all without society's involvement, hence why examples of it in the animal kingdom are interesting.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 8 Feb 2013, 17:35,
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