The Difference Between Holland & The Netherlands.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 16:56,
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i love this guy...
he's done some great stuff, a while back someone posted his two part history of the City of London, i.e. the square mile as opposed to london town. really fascinating.
EDIT: here it is
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc
and
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ROpIKZe-c
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Interesting stuff.
The videos about the benefits of the Alternative Vote over the first-past-the-post voting system made my blood boil. If the information had been available and so simply explained a few years ago...
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*high five*
yes, the AV one is so slickly done but so over simplsitic and totally overlooks the need for an executive to be decisive and effective rather than eternally seeking compromise through endless coalition committees, and for a few other reasons i no longer recall, it also made my blood boil.
EDIT: oh, i misunderstood you. thank goodness it wasn't out then!
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He actually released it well in advance of the referendum
I was posting it everywhere to no avail clearly :(
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Jorvic, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 18:52,
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the only real winners in AV/PR...
are the inevitably larger political class, and the accordingly over-represented minortities. remind me, what was the voting system that got that lunatic fringe nutjob nick griffin a seat in the european parliament? he wouldn't have had a chance in hell under FPTP.
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He got with less votes than the BNP recieved the previous time because of voter apathey
Which is partly due to the unrepresentative nature of FPTP (EDIT:apathy toward politicians with the scandals of the time effected that election I mean). If people felt that their vote mattered even a little they might be more inclined to use it. I see no problem with AV, in a fair number of seats it wouldn't change a damn thing, take Anne McIntosh for instance who regularly get 52% in her seat. It retains the constituency link, makes MP's work harder for their votes, allows people to express their actual political leanings rather than having to vote tactically.
(I'm not invoking Godwins law here, so don't take offence :p)You're argument about the inefficiency of coalition is basically the thin end of the wedge of arguments such as promoting a vanguard party or dictatorship of the proletariat, or fascist regime. I never understand how 'more democracy' is somehow a bad thing? As with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, you might not like the outcome, but if its representative (which you cannot argue FPTP is) the means surely justify the ends?
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Jorvic, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 19:24,
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tl;dr
i joke, i joke.
i read everything you said.
twice.
apathey? apathy surely?
compulsory voting?
not for me.
they say 'doing nothing is not an option'.
but it is.
*does nothing*
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Apologies for the spelling
Compulsory voting is tempting to me, but yeah you're right people should be allowed to not bother if they want, and but as I say that's what let Griffin in. I'd like an end to FPTP but I think we're stuck with it for a while now. Votes at 16 might instil people with a sense of civic duty and improve turnout
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Jorvic, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 23:30,
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And the prossies.
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Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 17:08,
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and for that reason, I'm out
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feckler https://twitter.com/LeonardEctric1, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 17:29,
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An amsterdam brothel may have it's clean sheets and sanitation but it doesn't have the charm of a joyless shag round the back of the local sink estate pub from a 56 year old mother of 17.
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herd of chickens First part only £1.99 and comes with a free, Mon 11 Feb 2013, 17:34,
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