Amazon have removed all the negative reviews left about their management of the Loony Toon Scandalgateshambles
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( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:28, Share, Reply)
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( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:28, Share, Reply)
isnt this kind of like people getting outraged
for not getting their free coke when someone accidentally left the door of the coke machine open?
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:37, Share, Reply)
for not getting their free coke when someone accidentally left the door of the coke machine open?
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:37, Share, Reply)
Sure
I'm sure on amazon there are terms & conditions on mispricing that covers them. But then there was all that stuff about them confirming the prices were legit. So who knows.
If you need Loony Toons that badly just do a moody download.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:43, Share, Reply)
I'm sure on amazon there are terms & conditions on mispricing that covers them. But then there was all that stuff about them confirming the prices were legit. So who knows.
If you need Loony Toons that badly just do a moody download.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:43, Share, Reply)
Well the activly advertised it at that price and put it in there "Summer sale"
Given the extent of some black friday reductions it wasn't an unbelievable price.
That and because it's a product that appeals to kids you're dealing with a more sensitive upset customer.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:45, Share, Reply)
Given the extent of some black friday reductions it wasn't an unbelievable price.
That and because it's a product that appeals to kids you're dealing with a more sensitive upset customer.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:45, Share, Reply)
right
if they promoted it then they only have themselves to blame really
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:56, Share, Reply)
if they promoted it then they only have themselves to blame really
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:56, Share, Reply)
Kinda
Except the contract formed when Amazon offered the product at a price and the customer accepted and offered payment has been broken. Contracts, unfortunately, underpin the whole economy, and breaking contracts tends to be frowned on by courts etc. So naughty naughty Amazon.
The outrage, I think, is more that Amazon are stonewalling everyone, deleting orders from customers' history, refusing to discuss the matter with customers who phone or try to chat to their reps online and (now) deleting anything bad said about them.
Sad thing is, they may have it right (for them) - doing business like this will affect their profits not one bit and all the upset people will burn themselves out in a few days and no one will remember or care.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:55, Share, Reply)
Except the contract formed when Amazon offered the product at a price and the customer accepted and offered payment has been broken. Contracts, unfortunately, underpin the whole economy, and breaking contracts tends to be frowned on by courts etc. So naughty naughty Amazon.
The outrage, I think, is more that Amazon are stonewalling everyone, deleting orders from customers' history, refusing to discuss the matter with customers who phone or try to chat to their reps online and (now) deleting anything bad said about them.
Sad thing is, they may have it right (for them) - doing business like this will affect their profits not one bit and all the upset people will burn themselves out in a few days and no one will remember or care.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:55, Share, Reply)
Depends..
There's case law to say that if a shop offers something at a particular price, they're under no obligation to sell it at that price..
It's someone vs Boots, CBA to google it but I think the crucial point is that Amazon aren't making an offer, they're making an "invitation to treat". Acceptance of such does not form a binding contract.
Edit: Turns out I could be bothered..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat mentions:
A shop owner displaying their goods for sale is generally making an invitation to treat (Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain v Boots Cash Chemists (Southern) Ltd [1953] 1 QB 401). They are not obliged to sell the goods to anyone who is willing to pay for them, even if additional signage such as "special offer" accompanies the display of the goods.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:10, Share, Reply)
There's case law to say that if a shop offers something at a particular price, they're under no obligation to sell it at that price..
It's someone vs Boots, CBA to google it but I think the crucial point is that Amazon aren't making an offer, they're making an "invitation to treat". Acceptance of such does not form a binding contract.
Edit: Turns out I could be bothered..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat mentions:
A shop owner displaying their goods for sale is generally making an invitation to treat (Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain v Boots Cash Chemists (Southern) Ltd [1953] 1 QB 401). They are not obliged to sell the goods to anyone who is willing to pay for them, even if additional signage such as "special offer" accompanies the display of the goods.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:10, Share, Reply)
Nice find!
That's a bit slippery though, if the online checkout process is "acceptance to treat" and they can still cancel the order and not take the money, even though you have / think you have given it.
I'll have to remember that one, it may come in useful one day.
/Edit - ah, hang on though, their offer is an "invitation to treat", but that offer was accepted (surely?) by the checkout process, and it was very clear on what you get -
"For an offer to be capable of becoming binding on acceptance, the offer must be definite, clear, and final. If it is a mere preliminary move into negotiation which may lead to a contract, it is not an offer but an invitation to treat. "
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:19, Share, Reply)
That's a bit slippery though, if the online checkout process is "acceptance to treat" and they can still cancel the order and not take the money, even though you have / think you have given it.
I'll have to remember that one, it may come in useful one day.
/Edit - ah, hang on though, their offer is an "invitation to treat", but that offer was accepted (surely?) by the checkout process, and it was very clear on what you get -
"For an offer to be capable of becoming binding on acceptance, the offer must be definite, clear, and final. If it is a mere preliminary move into negotiation which may lead to a contract, it is not an offer but an invitation to treat. "
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:19, Share, Reply)
If you take a child to the counter of a shop, a child who was accidently labelled 1.99, the act of going to the counter does not finalize the action
also, in law, you can buy a mislabelled product or the shopkeeper may accidently give you too much change, but you are under legal obligation to make sure you pay the right price unless you only have knowledge of the fact after leaving the store premises.
There's no law of 'getting away with it as long as they accept ya money'.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:41, Share, Reply)
also, in law, you can buy a mislabelled product or the shopkeeper may accidently give you too much change, but you are under legal obligation to make sure you pay the right price unless you only have knowledge of the fact after leaving the store premises.
There's no law of 'getting away with it as long as they accept ya money'.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:41, Share, Reply)
It's all a little unclear..
But they don't actually take money until it's despatched, do they? The checkout process is you making an offer to pay and I don't think there's a contract until they take your money.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:43, Share, Reply)
But they don't actually take money until it's despatched, do they? The checkout process is you making an offer to pay and I don't think there's a contract until they take your money.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:43, Share, Reply)
and then the contract gives obligations and rights to you as well rights and obligations to the business
if you were charged £4000 for a dvd boxset that you thought was actually £40.00 the business could not say 'you paid, therefore you accepted, we're keepin ya money'
and so you can't get away with gettin somethin mega cheap because of a shop's accident
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:49, Share, Reply)
if you were charged £4000 for a dvd boxset that you thought was actually £40.00 the business could not say 'you paid, therefore you accepted, we're keepin ya money'
and so you can't get away with gettin somethin mega cheap because of a shop's accident
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:49, Share, Reply)
Well, no, of course not
You could return the untouched goods within 14 days for a full refund.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 15:04, Share, Reply)
You could return the untouched goods within 14 days for a full refund.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 15:04, Share, Reply)
Yeah, that's what was running through my head
They're not actually allowed to take the money until they ship the goods, under UK credit control guidelines. Bit of a "get out of jail free" card compared to a cash transaction, eh.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:53, Share, Reply)
They're not actually allowed to take the money until they ship the goods, under UK credit control guidelines. Bit of a "get out of jail free" card compared to a cash transaction, eh.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:53, Share, Reply)
More people probably winged about that
than vote in general elections.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:39, Share, Reply)
than vote in general elections.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:39, Share, Reply)
The cheeky scamps!
Sorted.
Not surprised as it was about to go down to 2 stars.
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Either they're just swapped things around or you're looking at the wrong item.
www.amazon.co.uk/Looney-Tunes-Complete-Collection-Volumes/dp/B004S6E95O/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1369918001&sr=1-1&keywords=Looney+Tunes+-+The+Complete+Golden+Collection
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:44, Share, Reply)
Sorted.
Not surprised as it was about to go down to 2 stars.
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Either they're just swapped things around or you're looking at the wrong item.
www.amazon.co.uk/Looney-Tunes-Complete-Collection-Volumes/dp/B004S6E95O/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1369918001&sr=1-1&keywords=Looney+Tunes+-+The+Complete+Golden+Collection
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:44, Share, Reply)
outraged customer Gareth Todd has even left kisses on the end of his review
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( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:00, Share, Reply)
He's just playing it coy
The make-up sex is going to be explosive.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:06, Share, Reply)
The make-up sex is going to be explosive.
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 14:06, Share, Reply)
That takes you to the wrong item, no wonder there are no bad reviews about it, they are all here ... www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B004S6E95O/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#RGQ7ZODHI6OJ6
( , Thu 30 May 2013, 13:52, Share, Reply)