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Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.

(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
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I'd disagree
To an extent - in that state funded infrastructure investment in the US DID work when it was properly and efficiently controlled.

Huey P Long is vilified now - possibly with justification as he was undoubtedly a corrupt and nepotistic demagogue - but he was able to use Federal funding to drag Louisiana from a pre - 1930 basket case to parity with the more developed Northern States.

The other Southern States followed his lead to varying degrees, Alabama in particular.

The difference was that the Northern States regarded Federal funding as a means by which to maintain the fairly feudalistic status quo.

To translate this into 2009 terms, if the multifaceted handouts gleefully (recklessly?) issued by HM Government were directed at those who wish to progress, rather than those who wish to buy bandages to contain the wounds inflicted upon them, we may build a solid base upon which to build an economic future.

As it is, all I see is the brave little boy sticking his finger in the hole in the dyke.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 18:16, 1 reply)
I'd not completely disagree with you
in that it's impossible to say what did and didn't work back then. Who knows what might have happened if the investment didn't happen?

It certainly didn't work quickly though, and it cost Hoover ultimately, which was a terrible shame.

The last part - we can't build a solid base without a banking system. We might not like it, but those wounds HAVE to be bandaged. How we progress after that is another matter.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 18:35, closed)
Might
I make a recommendation? Look up Joseph Stiglitz - he wrote some very interesting books both against and for globalization and free markets as well as the banks that support them. He used to work for Clinton but has some very interesting arguments on both sides. :)
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:04, closed)
So let's step back
And use our mighty powers of hindsight.

Tony Blair and George Bush were the Warren G. Hardings of our generation - placed in positions of power by those who trusted them to convey an appropriate message and, above all, protect their interests.

Granted the translation does'nt quite work because Coolidge was a relatively honest man and we don't have a contemporary Coolidge but by the time of his presidency the damage was done - despite the show trials of the Teapot Dome the senate was in the hands of the industrialists.

I half suspect that Calvin Coolidge understood that he was fighting a loosing battle and was happy to give way to Hoover - certainly the latter half of Coolidge's presidency was particularly lacklustre and saw the beginnings of what we now call McCarthyism - the assumption that leftist forces were insinuating their way into the US economy.

If you want early 20th century US politics I could go on all night - it's one of my passions - but the parallels are there to see.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist or similar but I have been regarding the Blair years in direct comparison to Harding for some time.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:08, closed)

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