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[challenge entry] Could have been worse...

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(gtfomh, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:21, archived)
# WTF is that?
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:27, archived)
# Deep penetration:P
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:28, archived)
# it's a suit of armour
the one she was firing the melons at
(gtfomh, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:28, archived)
# hahaha
TJ: what GIF editor does everyone use? I've used Jasc Animation shop to do the ones I've made but it seems very basic and difficult to optimise down to below 400k. Just wondered if there was a better one people could recommend?

EDIT: Cheers all, will take a look at Photoshop
(I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:31, archived)
# I use
this one
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:34, archived)
# Well it's horses for courses.
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:37, archived)
# :oD
(I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:38, archived)
# damn you!
(gtfomh, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:38, archived)
# blue ray for free? that sounds like a fantastic ... WAIT A MINUTE!
(I helped save b3ta! Prequal This is serious business. Very serious., Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:43, archived)
# Oh for fuck sake
:)
(I helped save b3ta! Frogbeat, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:43, archived)
# i use photoshop.
but i'm sure there must be a better way of doing it
(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:43, archived)
# Photoshop is the perferred method
After Effects will do the job as well without so much of the keyframing.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:57, archived)
# CS3
But I'm sure there are easier programs. Or the truth is I'm probably going all around the houses with it!
(I helped save b3ta! Frogbeat, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:44, archived)
# ImageReady
although making changes to independent frames is a bitch
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:44, archived)
# yeah it's a pita
from what I can tell it pretty much forces you to duplicate all the layers and manually show/hide them if you intend on rotating an object or it insists on rotating every damn frame.

Optimising - cut out frames, work out roughly how many colours you're going to be able to get away with, and then try fiddling with colour options. Depending on the gif, making it fairly lossy seems to be a good way of cutting the filesize while retaining visibility. If all else fails, scanlines! :)
(gtfomh, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:53, archived)
# Do you not just switch between IR and PS? It updates in each as you edit either.
(glammerocity state of the art Luddite, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:53, archived)
# and

sorry
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:54, archived)
# The method I use is to create a group from the original layers
and for each new frame I duplicate the group (switching off the visibility before I duplicate) and then enabling the visibility of the new copied group which means I can perform any transformations without affecting the previous frames.

I also make liberal usage of the "Flatten Frames into Layers" if I want to make transformations on merged layers.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 18:00, archived)
# Cheers all
The problems I have are not so much with transformation of layers and sets, more with toggling visibility of layers
on early frames then affecting all later frames. I think there's an option to override this but I can't seem to use it properly.

* goes off to read FAQ*
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 18:46, archived)
# there's an option
'propagate frame 1 changes' or something. But sometimes it seems to do it anyway.
(gtfomh, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 18:47, archived)
# That's the one
but I seem to be Doing It Wrong
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 18:56, archived)
# Even with Propagate Frames switched off on the first frame
whenever you create a new layer it will be visible throughout the frames. A little tip go to frame 1 of your animation - Create your new layer then switch off it's visibility and then go to the frame you need and you can switch the visibility back on without effecting other frames saving you time. If you are duplicating a layer, switch off it's visibility before you duplicate and then switch on the visibility of the newly copied layer - that way it won't affect other frames.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 19:04, archived)
# Ah! Thank you muchly :)
(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 20:30, archived)
# Macromedia Fireworks 8
still does the job easier/better than recent Photoshops for me
(I helped save b3ta! alwayslostinsmoke fulfilling dreams since, Mon 27 Sep 2010, 18:35, archived)