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# It's only a waste...
...if you waste it. Rather than moaning why not go and do something. As the saying goes:
'Those who can, do
Those who can't be arsed, moan about it on teh interwebs'
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:19, archived)
# Moaning is doing something
most of what that Martin Luther King did was just advanced moaning.
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:25, archived)
# At least...
...he could moan in style.
Hmm...there may be a (weak) joke in there somewhere.
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:31, archived)
# Because of all the reasons I have explained above
a non-vote is no less effective than a vote - regardless of the way you vote. Sooner or later people will have to sit up and take note of why so many people are not using their votes, or do you really believe that it will get to a stage where Political Parties are gaining seats based on a very small fraction of the overall vote?
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:28, archived)
# Spoling the ballot...
...is IMHO more effective than a non-vote. You are saying "I have the will and wherewithal to vote, but there is no candidate for me".
Even better (assuming there genuinely is no one you feel you can vote for) would be to start your own campaign (or join an action/lobby group or whatever).
Moaning and not voting isn't really anything IMHO.
You are of course free to do as you wish (until some ass-hat makes that illegal 'n all)
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:34, archived)
# Also it's fun and you can probably write swears.
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:37, archived)
# That...
...is a fucking excellent idea!

Who can write the worst swear on a ballot paper and not get gaoled?
Or who can fill out their ballot in the most amusing manner and not get sectioned?
Now there is a compo!
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:40, archived)
# did it for my last council elections
changed the names to Betty Arsebiscuit and Norman Shit-Norman and drew a CDC on the bottom
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:43, archived)
# Supporting democracy!
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:47, archived)
# For a start to stand in the election you need to be a registered party and put up something like £4,000
in advance and only if you achieve over 5% of the vote will you get your Deposit back. So there is a very real and tangible barrier to standing in elections which is why Socialist Groups find it so difficult to put up cnadidates - this isn't the land of the free!

And spoiling the ballot paper? - what does that actually prove? I've stood in local elections all the spolit papers are sorted in a pile of about a few dozen and the parties argue about what the "voter" was actually voting for so a percent of "spolit" papers are actually mis-used as votes under the idea the voter was too stupid to know how to put an X in a box!
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:43, archived)
# Good for you for standing
And I can see I will have to be very careful where I curl one out should I decide spoil my ballot.
Even if you can't stand yourself (or your group can't), then making your case to the other candidates is surely better than nothing. ("MLK advanced moaning" if you will)
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:48, archived)
# Yes be very careful how you spoil your ballot paper
one person put "X" in every box but 1 and they took it that it was a vote for the one without the X - whether the voter actually intended that or was expressing some form of Proportional Representation will never be known - but it was decided what the vote was by a totally unelected group of people speculating on it's meaning. Probably better to smear poo on the ballot sheet they wouldn;t touch it then or they would assume it was a vote for Brown :D
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:57, archived)
# I agree with the spoiling your ballot argument

(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:52, archived)
# For a small, irrelevant party
a few votes matter, and increase the chance of it ultimately becoming a relevant party... decades later. Except by the sound of it you don't even have a small, irrelevant party standing that's in any way attractive.
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:40, archived)
# Exactly
e.g. The Greens will (probably) never win an election. But simply but being there and nabbing a few percent of the vote (potentially a vital few percent if the parliament is hung) they keep the other parties in check and manage to get their message out.
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:43, archived)
# as I said up there
they already do
(, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 12:41, archived)