Name a Metallica album with no obviously half-arsed, written in the studio filler then.
Clichéd lyrics, hammy chord structures, tired vocals, atrocious drumming and bloated production are what they do. Live, they're alright, but that's because they play the few radio hits they bothered to shit out between lines, pints and born again christian idiot sessions.

I don't like Metallica. Being a diehard fan of theirs and claiming most other bands to be talentless is like professing to be a master of fantasy fiction because you have Fellowship of the Ring on copied DVD, and haven't even bothered to watch it.
( Angry Boss Bee I love horses, death to other animals, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:40, 1 reply)

the drumming is quite bad, I'll give you that
hammy chord structures isn't something you can level at them though. As far as rhythm guitar parts go they are far superior to most metal bands because they do something a bit different from the normal chugging and thrashing.

show me a metal band whose lyrics aren't clichéd as well.

for the record, as well as being a massive metallica fan (except st anger, that was a massive piece of shit) I also enjoy a huge range of other bands, a lot of whom are better in many ways.

last time I saw them live they played a bunch of songs that weren't the radio hits and it was still brilliant.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:51, closed)

Vastly ironically, I think St. Anger is great.
Simply because you get all the true necro hordes that eulogise black metal because of the terrible production, who went mad because St. Anger had a crap snare and was badly mixed. Fuck that, it's Darkthrone 'tallica! Sadly the songs are all pants.

Lyrically I like bands like Discordance Axis/Gridlink, with the interesting use of adjectives and obscure video game references, or Circle Takes The Square with their huge, sprawling poems reminiscent of T S Eliot. Or Amesoeurs, who had the gall to put a Baudellaire poem to music. That speaks to me far more than a tired alcoholic suffering a mid-life crisis...
( Angry Boss Bee I love horses, death to other animals, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:58, closed)

I have a real dislike of the snare sound on st anger
sounds like he is hitting a saucepan. don't care what anyone else thinks about it. Those songs are the worst lyrically with regard to going on about the alcoholism and stuff.

To be honest I don't listen to Metallica for the quality or meaning of the lyrics. As a guitarist I like what they do with their guitar parts, the staccato breaks on a lot of stuff on Death Magnetic are excellent examples of good metal song crafting.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 14:04, closed)

slayer
totally agree on the slayer bit. boring wank. a mate bought me a slayer dvd a few years ago. live at warfield. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHNIv9fQ5M0

wonder why metal fans get a bad name? check it.
(TexasPete enjoyed being sexually molested by your Father on, Sat 17 Oct 2009, 13:22, closed)