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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:56,
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I envy your talent
and thus hate you*
*not really
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M3rx Winky winky bum bum poo poo titty titty!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:56,
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heeee he he he he
he gives me the glees
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:57,
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Hello.
Guess which animal I'm thinking of.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:57,
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The Cheetah.
Next
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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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no
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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Aardvark
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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not that
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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a south sea island crab
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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Nope
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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Salamander
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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No,
but that would have been my second choice.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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YES!
I'm almost psychic...
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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Duck
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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No.
Here's a clue. It starts with 'l' (L).
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Impala?
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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That's an L
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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Indian elephant?
Ian's cat?
Isabelle's hyena?
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RiffRaff "Board Sig"? What's that?... Oh, I see...., Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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It's an L.
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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*cleans glasses*
oh yes, so it is.
L E PHANT?
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RiffRaff "Board Sig"? What's that?... Oh, I see...., Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:15,
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Ian
Ian the rhino?
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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It's still not an i.
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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ooh,
www.b3ta.com/board/7315697
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:08,
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Large Amu-Dar Shovelnose Sturgeon
It must be.
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:10,
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is "large"
actually part of the name of that creature or did you just slap an adjective on the front?
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:12,
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If you are talking about my new friend
Pseudoscaphirhynchus kaufmanni or you can call him Large Amu-Dar Shovelnose Sturgeon, then that's what he is called. Except by his mum apparently.
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:15,
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fury snuff
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:25,
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Large-eared Tenrec
Lesser Hedgehog Tenrec
Lesser Iron-gray Dwarf Lemur
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:14,
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damn - llama
should have know... I was foolishly working my way through the Tenrecs...
It's almost never any kind of Tenrec!
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:16,
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bloody Tenrec obsession
messing up my game...
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:20,
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the spiny echidna
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Sorry.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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A fraggle?
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Just Flange Eiwit, the mighty ENDOSPERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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erm...
puppet much?
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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THEY WERE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just Flange Eiwit, the mighty ENDOSPERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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yes
they were real puppets
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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whatever man, i seen 'em, i seen 'em at the bottom of my garden.
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Just Flange Eiwit, the mighty ENDOSPERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:15,
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with strings holding them upright
and people's hands up inside them...
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:17,
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Get thee to the Derby Bash, heathen

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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:19,
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unicorn?
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Just Flange Eiwit, the mighty ENDOSPERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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can it be milked?
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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Yes,
yes it can.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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now we're getting closer....
Northern Hemisphere or Southern, or both... or neither?
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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Southern,
though it may have been imported to other hemispheres where it would be confined to farms.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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marsupial?
is it a Platipus?
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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No.
It's not one of them
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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is it a marsupial though...
(damn - why did I ask 2 questions in one post - fool!)
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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Lemur?
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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no
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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iguana
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Just Flange Eiwit, the mighty ENDOSPERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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nah
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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badger.
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Jeccius is also me Xbox 360 Gamertag, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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nope
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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Leopard?
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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not at all
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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Liger?
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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a what?
no, sorry.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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Horses!
/best of all the animals to think about
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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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Indeed,
but they're not being thought of by me.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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Giraffe?
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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*shakes head*
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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a octopus
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god save the queen hardly ever original, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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yuck.
no
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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Hippo
I think about them all the time
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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It's best to keep them in mind,
but that's not the answer
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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Think of all the animals you've ever heard about
like rhinoc'ruses and tigers cats and mink
There are lots of funny animals in all this world
But have you ever seen a panther that is pink?
Think!
A panther that is positively pink,
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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positively pink...?
it has AIDZLOL?
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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Iriomote Cat
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ivesb Assistant Clinical Physiologist extraordinary, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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He typed a lower case l. Not an i. :)
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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It's an L
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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damn you!!!
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ivesb Assistant Clinical Physiologist extraordinary, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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Indris?

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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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'L'
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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Still, Lemur?
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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:08,
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It's a Llama
You 'tards
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:08,
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Yes.
You're the winner!
Hurrah. It was a Llama.
*hugs*
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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:D
Me and thee, little wheelybird, we're connected
*squeezes*
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:10,
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It's spiritual.
Though of course it was going to be a llama. Who thinks of other animals these days? It's a llama-centric world.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:12,
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Llamas and ducks, of course
I guess b3ta must be a little behind the times
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:13,
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www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama
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god save the queen hardly ever original, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:14,
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YES
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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:16,
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Hahaha exactly
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:17,
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Late to the party :(

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MetaFarad loves to TANZEN!, Sun 30 Sep 2007, 11:44,
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She cheated
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:11,
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I can't help it if I'm awesome
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:12,
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I know
That was just poorly-concealed bitterness and jealousy.
;)
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:13,
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:)
I'm starting a campaign for free awesome for everyone
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:15,
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I don't want any, it gives me a bad tummy
Someone can have mine
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Hamster Trippin', Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:23,
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I want to see the brain scan
that proves this. where's the ref?
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:11,
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Here you go
www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2000/11/brain/composite_2.jpgAs you can see, the llama cognitive centres are highly active.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:14,
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God they are too
When was the lobotomy done, do you think?
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The Tig and me, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:16,
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*dribbles*
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:20,
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Lynx
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Che_Guevaras_Sponge RAWR., Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:08,
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Is it
a Llama?
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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Yes,
but SSS beat you to it. :)
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:10,
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was it
a Llama?
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:12,
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Yes.
Yes it was.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:14,
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the slender Loris?
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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Aww, they're lovely
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SugarSpunSister www.facebook.com/pages/SugarSpun/8347697732, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:10,
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they are in my top 2 lovely animals
along with Sugar Gliders.
Have a googleimages inspierd link:
pbskids.org/backyardjungle/files.php/1274744_discovery_f.jpgP.s. best animals ever are cats and pygmy goats, but sugar gliders and slender lorises are cuter.
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:14,
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My artwork in August's National Geographic :)
www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/9805/1187812703/inprint.jpgNow someone mentions Slender Loris
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Jahled So boring, you'll pass out saying my name, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:18,
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www.b3ta.com/board/7653613
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:27,
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Lion?
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Jeccius is also me Xbox 360 Gamertag, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:11,
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So it was HIM that killed Clippy in Office 2007!
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:57,
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I've just inadvertantly deleted my copy of Image ready
no more animation
:(
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bilbobarneybobs is a financial spacktard, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:57,
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WHAT!!?
you serious?
you ham fingered monger!


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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I deleted Photoshop CS seeing as I now have CS3
forgot IR isn't in the latest PS, so have now lost it
wonder if I can reinstall the CS1 upgrade...
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bilbobarneybobs is a financial spacktard, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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bittorrent
is king.
Obviously for evaluation purposes only.
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M3rx Winky winky bum bum poo poo titty titty!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Doh!
Bad luck, matey


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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ohhh!
can i have one!?
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ivesb Assistant Clinical Physiologist extraordinary, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:12,
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Sure!
*passes wooden biscuits*


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:20,
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you should be able to just install IR from the CS disk...
you numpty
or learn Fireworks
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Joe Scaramanga - One Week Left To SPONSOR ME: SEE MY PROFILE NOW!!!!!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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yes - someone buy me the full version with all the web stuff
as we only got the Design version
bah!
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bilbobarneybobs is a financial spacktard, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:02,
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!
that was silly.
Silly Freebs
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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Reinstall it then
silly
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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This is a sad story.
But a good opportunity to use something free that has image optimisation and animation stuff in it. Yes, I'm pushing the GIMP at your face again.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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GIMP is Arse
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bilbobarneybobs is a financial spacktard, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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The GIMP's user interface was designed by a committee of four year olds on crack
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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THIS
I HAD A LOOK ONCE
ONCE.
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bilbobarneybobs is a financial spacktard, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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no need to shout
have some green tea and clam down
sheesh
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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*wonders whether this means it's good or whether it means it's bad*
hhmmmmm.....
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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Open-source completely fails at usability in this case. I want to be able to use the fucker WITHOUT reading the manual, you elitist cunt designers. That's intuitive design and it is not a fault on the user's part if they cannot pick it up and use it.
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cr3 history books forgot about us, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:05,
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*agrees*
making things simple is complicated.
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:06,
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Easy reading is damn hard writing
As Nathanial Hawthorne said.
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:08,
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This is slightly unfair.
The GIMP was one of the earliest open source projects to create a proper graphics package. They weren't experts at human/computer interfaces and naturally they didn't want to just clone another program.
They unfortunately made a few mistakes and it was difficult to fix this without re-write that would break the upgrade process etc.
They certainly aren't elitist; they don't insist that their layout is the best or even perfect. In fact, the next release branch has a much improved interface.
And seeing as you're getting a powerful image manipulation program for free that's coded by people in their spare time, it's unfair to call them cunts. They're not doing it to spite you.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:32,
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this
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Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE(TM), Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:43,
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It's not great,
but it's not unusable.
The menus need re-arranging a bit. However, there's a version knocking around somewhere that changes the UI to be more like your Photoingshops that you like.
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wheelybird Paul's out of toilet paper - send donations, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:19,
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Do a system restore!
After backing-up all your work!
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Che_Guevaras_Sponge RAWR., Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Ha ha ha
Excellent.
Hello Archie, nice to see you again.
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:57,
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and you too m'dear :)
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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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What a lovely hello!
I just got 'middle' . . .
*grumbles*


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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I got fuck all from you though
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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have two lots . . .


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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Fa la la la !
'Ningles ! Is better yes ? Is good !
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rabbitz, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:07,
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HUZZAH !
I'm okay, apart from the impending doom of "big birthday" :(
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rabbitz, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:20,
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Birthday Schmurthday!
You'll still be lully!


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:30,
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WOO!
needs some Umlat caltrops as well.
:D
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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I've got some pills for them...
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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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you've got pills for everthing
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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This is true....
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The Great Architect, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Caltrops are great
where can you get them?
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M3rx Winky winky bum bum poo poo titty titty!, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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you can make then yourself
use hardened water chestnuts and cut them into 3 sided pyramids.
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Thor_sonofodin https://twitter.com/Thor_sonofodin, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:04,
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Oooh, this I like!

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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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wonderful
*click*
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pzyko is a whaler on the moon and carries a harpoon, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:58,
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Hehehe!
nice one, Archie! Bit big for the FP . . . C];0)


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Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Can't find glasses he likes - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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at first I was cautious when I saw the image challenge
and then I saw a few posts and I felt better... then I saw this one and I felt good.
Now I'm sleepy from the rollercoaster of emotions I've experienced.
Woo yay
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Prof UnderCover belligerence aroused by a real or supposed wrong, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 10:59,
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This isn't group therapy
Please keep your emotions to yourself.
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Pachey, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:00,
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Go into the light gramps
It's your time

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Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:01,
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Takes a sip of morning dew. Oh sorry I went a bit Bill Bailey there.
woo.
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riverghost Discomeats likes pies, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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Ohhhh !
That's pretty special. Woo Archie !
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rabbitz, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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great stuff you talented bastard you.
=)
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ivesb Assistant Clinical Physiologist extraordinary, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:03,
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that's v nice :D
'ning matey :)
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Jeccius is also me Xbox 360 Gamertag, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:09,
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*Doesn't replace Paperclip with Ninja in word*
:)
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Jahled So boring, you'll pass out saying my name, Thu 27 Sep 2007, 11:19,
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