The Palestinians want their land and homes backStolen from them in 1948 by Menachin Begins terrorists
who tried their damnest to murder my father
(who tried their damnest to murder my father
CanonCaliber A big bore,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:13,
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They can fuck off.That is the past and they need to deal with that.
That said, the current situation is untenable - Israel is utterly unreasonable and Palestinians are treated like animals - worse than animals.
(That said, the current situation is untenable - Israel is utterly unreasonable and Palestinians are treated like animals - worse than animals.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:18,
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How long ago is the past?The Irish problem goes back 600 years
The Welsh attitude to the English goes back 1000+ years
The Israelis claim to "Israel" goes back 4000+years
If the Pakistanis claim Leeds as their independant state when does it become a legitimate claim?
(The Welsh attitude to the English goes back 1000+ years
The Israelis claim to "Israel" goes back 4000+years
If the Pakistanis claim Leeds as their independant state when does it become a legitimate claim?
CanonCaliber A big bore,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:27,
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Good question.I would suggest 'as soon as it is complete'.
The war for Israel was finished and restarted - it might be shit, but nobody fighting now had their homes stolen, the Israelis are not leaving and everyone has to calm the fuck down.
Primarily this means Israel stopping killing people at random and in huge numbers.
(The war for Israel was finished and restarted - it might be shit, but nobody fighting now had their homes stolen, the Israelis are not leaving and everyone has to calm the fuck down.
Primarily this means Israel stopping killing people at random and in huge numbers.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:29,
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They aren't being treated like animalsIsrael is supplying food, water, electricity & gas to a country who are firing rockets at them!
Yes there is security, but like so many who are ignorant of Israel's position, I have to remind you that they aren't bordering the Benelux countries.
No security = more nightclubs, pizza restaurants, bars and school buses will be obliterated by Hamas's human bombs.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:33,
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Yes there is security, but like so many who are ignorant of Israel's position, I have to remind you that they aren't bordering the Benelux countries.
No security = more nightclubs, pizza restaurants, bars and school buses will be obliterated by Hamas's human bombs.
Killing random people is not security.Keeping people in a prison is not security.
Supplying food, water, electricity and gas to prisoners does not make their imprisonment reasonable.
Given what happened in Nazi Germany one would imagine that this was obvious to Israel, but they appear too self obsessed with their own being chosen to be able to equate that with other master races.
There you go, there's your bone, go gnaw it.
(Supplying food, water, electricity and gas to prisoners does not make their imprisonment reasonable.
Given what happened in Nazi Germany one would imagine that this was obvious to Israel, but they appear too self obsessed with their own being chosen to be able to equate that with other master races.
There you go, there's your bone, go gnaw it.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:36,
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They wouldn't behaving to supply these items if they didn't crack down on all border (including sea!) crossings into the strip.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:36,
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These are the same tactics used by Begins lot to terrorize British soldiers in 1948If it was OK for him to do it then, why it is not ok for palastinians to do it now
( CanonCaliber A big bore,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:40,
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You sir, have a problemmaybe you should lighten up, laugh and take your politics and racism to the appropriate site.
I'm sad to hear that reality is getting in the way of your idealism.
(I'm sad to hear that reality is getting in the way of your idealism.
Art101 You all have an unhealthy and morbid fascination,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:41,
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It wasn't their landPalestine was simply a Western name on old maps. They also used the words "The Holy Land", but if you are inventing a nationality HolyLanders sounds a bit wierd...so they called themselves "Palestinians".
Why did they invent this word? Because with 96% of the land already being given to Arabs, Arabs pleading for the last 4% wasn't gonna get much sympathy.
Hence the invention of "The Palestinians" and the myth of "Palestine"as a real country.
As for their homes - well I'm sure that Bosnians, Serbs and Croatians fled warzones and lost land. Jews were kicked out of their homes across the Middle East.
Life goes on.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:20,
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Why did they invent this word? Because with 96% of the land already being given to Arabs, Arabs pleading for the last 4% wasn't gonna get much sympathy.
Hence the invention of "The Palestinians" and the myth of "Palestine"as a real country.
As for their homes - well I'm sure that Bosnians, Serbs and Croatians fled warzones and lost land. Jews were kicked out of their homes across the Middle East.
Life goes on.
I agree.They cannot campaign for their lost homes any more than any other deposed nation.
Of course, the deposing is still a problem and Israel is moving borders, extending walls and killing innocents.
This is not security, it is aggressive attritional assault and frankly it must be stopped.
There is no master race, stop pretending there is. You are not chosen, you are just people.
(Of course, the deposing is still a problem and Israel is moving borders, extending walls and killing innocents.
This is not security, it is aggressive attritional assault and frankly it must be stopped.
There is no master race, stop pretending there is. You are not chosen, you are just people.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:26,
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You appear to be arguing with yourself now? LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:30,
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You're boring me now.... :(why not go here...
www.deagostini.co.uk/ilovejews/
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:31,
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www.deagostini.co.uk/ilovejews/
and all Palestine wants is their own bit back...there's only one way to find out who's right...
KILL LOTS OF CHILDREN AND INNOCENTS
(KILL LOTS OF CHILDREN AND INNOCENTS
drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:37,
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Of course, the ancient Mesapotamian kingdom of Isrealwas much much smaller than modern day Isreal, so Isreal's "ancient claim" to it's current land holdings is flawed at best.
It's also worth remembering that even the Jews' own mythology has them stealing the land from the Arabs in Moses time.
"We've run away from Pharoah and God said we could have this land. Now take your goats and fuck off!"
Right of conquest is all well and good, but they could atleast acknowledge that they won the land by brute force only.
Bottom line is - you shouldn't have killed Jesus. You've brought all of this on yourselves.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 20:27,
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It's also worth remembering that even the Jews' own mythology has them stealing the land from the Arabs in Moses time.
"We've run away from Pharoah and God said we could have this land. Now take your goats and fuck off!"
Right of conquest is all well and good, but they could atleast acknowledge that they won the land by brute force only.
Bottom line is - you shouldn't have killed Jesus. You've brought all of this on yourselves.
The people who ordered the genocides in old Yugoslavia are now facing trial at the Hague CanonCaliber A big bore,
Thu 8 Jan 2009, 19:51,
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