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This is a normal post Newspapers twist stories to fit their point of view?
Stop the Press!
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post what i find worrying is the decission to force 2 girls aged 11 and 15 to be given the mmr jab
despite there not wanting it and there parent not wanting it
 (I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post The father wanted the girls to have it ...
the mother did not. It's the fucking fault of the press that some parents are STILL concerned about having the jab.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24493422
 (mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^This^
There are kids permanently damaged in the UK because of an entirely ficticious health-scare so some parts of the press could get a dig in at the last government.

Should be made compulsory to provide annually a fully up-to-date vaccination record before a kid can go to school
 (I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post what about choice?

(I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post That is a choice
Either give your kids the vaccinations necessary to protect their health and the health of those around them, or you don't get to send them to school
 (I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post wouldnt be a bad trade of if the parents can provide a better education than the state
at the cost of injecting toxic chemicals into a child.
but with all the arguments and disimformation that is around from both sides shouldnt the parents be the ones who ultimatly make that choice?
 (I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Toxic Chemicals?! FFS.
With arguments and disinformation like that, the parents should probably be the last ones to make the choice.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Arguments and disinformation from both sides?
It's not a finely balanced debate. It's not a debate at all. There's no evidence for MMR being dangerous, and certainly not more dangerous than the illnesses against which it protects.

Google is not a reliable academic source, fluff.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post yes i know its better for porn though

(I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect every one of those parents had all of their shots
A level of immunisation is necessary to provide protection for all - in all of the areas where there were outbreaks earlier this year all of a sudden those parents decided that they perhaps should get their kids immunised - shame it took some serious illnesses and permanent damage to occur before they got round to it.

There never was any credible peer-reviewed evidence of any link between the MMR jab and autism. Plenty of evidence that the (now former) doctor who claimed the link was in the pay of some lawyers who were suing drug-companies though
 (I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Was that the doctor who was subsequently struck off?
For doing overly invasive tests on kids, some of them without informed parental consent?
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Wakefield - fucking waste of sperm
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8700611.stm

Apparently he's a bit of a hero for the right wing conspiraloons in the US now

Sadly
 (I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yup, that's the one.
You do him too much credit though; someone clearly pissed in his mum.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh FFS, go do some reading.
There is a whole battery of information out there demonstrating that they're perfectly safe to use for the vast, vast majority of people, and that the odds of you being harmed by the jab are orders of magnitude lower than the odds of you being seriously harmed by the disease.

I'm all for freedom of choice, but freedom of choice based upon incomplete, biased, or willfully misleading information is no choice at all.

Calling them "toxic" just shows your ignorance of the issues involved.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post not ignorant of the subject just useing the arguments for and against
one camps calls it safe one camp calls it toxic who to believe?
studys conducted by biased studdy groups funded by the very companys that they are trialing or the fear mongers who want any and all vacinations to be provved safe by independant and transparent means?

to many times the industry influences the out come of studys in there favour is it any wonder people dont trust what the goverment and says?
 (I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're confusing 'arguments' with 'conspiracies'.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post What's the point in arguing with you?
If you're just going to airily dismiss any evidence of safety as evidence of conspiracy then you're just wasting everyone's time here.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Probably just trolling.
I mean proper trolling, not briefing. The Beeb consistently conflates these.

It would explain why "ignore" is in purple for that guy.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 22:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've read this thread and have concluded that you are a fucking idiot.

(I helped save b3ta! Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Sun 13 Oct 2013, 19:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post you're such a thicko

(I helped save b3ta! The Doveston haunted by the memory of his own amnesia, Mon 14 Oct 2013, 10:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I'm available for one-to-one tuition, i can't guarantee they'll learn anything but after the first lesson they'll be begging you to let them have the shots so they can go to school.

D.O.T.B, because education matters.
 (I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post does the fee for one to one tuition include your personaly administerd ' 100% natural innoculation ?

(I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fuck choice, what about some common sense and everybody just stop being utter spastics.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post this ^
but i think that is asking far too much of most people.
'common sense' is not that common anymore i am afraid.
 (I helped save b3ta! miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post When an American has to tell us that you know we're in trouble!
;-)
 (I helped save b3ta! JamTallons, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Hate agreeing with Pissflaps. Even a stopped clock, etc.
 (creekon, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 18:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post What about choice?
As far as the law is concerned, children under sixteen lack competence to make moral decisions for themselves. As such, the responsibility passes to others, who have a duty to act in the child's best medical interests.

Usually, that other is the parent; and it's usually assumed that the parent will act in the child's best interest. But that assumption is rebuttable - in which case, a suboptimal decision can be overruled. That's what happened here.

It's got nothing to do with rights or choice. It's about duties to those in your care.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Rebuttable.
What a wonderful word.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post *sings Louis Armstrong*

(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post well i for one am glad you cleared that up
now cn you use shorter words so that it makes sense?
or is a that the parent/s coculd have been scummy low lifes not fit to have kids let alone raise them?
 (I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'll make you an offer:
If I promise to explain Enzyme's arguments for you, will you promise to proof read your own?
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post no
not a chance
nada
niet
etc etc and so on
wouldnt be right if it was all correct
 (I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post That was the most catty thing I've heard all day.
Bravo.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Meow.
Whatever happened to pedantichrist?
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post more likely that the parents are new agey or religious folk
who believed the lies the papers printed about MMR all those years ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy
prior to submitting his paper to The Lancet, Wakefield had received £55,000 from Legal Aid Board solicitors seeking evidence to use against vaccine manufacturers, that several of the parents quoted as saying that MMR had damaged their children were also litigants, and that Wakefield did not inform colleagues or medical authorities of the conflict of interest
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 16:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post By "the papers" do you just mean "The Mail"?
Or did some of the more reputable ones push that crap too?
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post didn't want to say without evidence and couldn't be arsed to check :D
edit - lmgtfy.com/?q=daily+mail+mmr+autism
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm going to take that as a yes.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Sat 12 Oct 2013, 17:12, , Reply)