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This is a normal post truly grim statistics, done in a really great searchable manner.
my mother read a local news piece recently tallying up the numbers of police shootings here in Florida, and asked... "Can it be true that Florida has had more police caused fatalities this week than all of the UK in 10 years? And could it be true not all of the UK's Police force carry guns? How can they do their job?"
"I said yes, I don't need to look up the actual numbers. they likely are not exaggerated. Amazingly, they seem to manage without mass obliteration of the police force."
I say this as a gun owning American, one fatality is far too many. This goes not just for the police, but those 'stand your ground' folks as well.
 (I helped save b3ta! miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Mon 27 Jul 2015, 23:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Grim indeed.
The gun control issue is broadly debated, and has probably passed the point of no return, but cops killing citizens in such huge numbers? Surely that is something people have to sit up and take notice of? I'm surprised that it has been a UK broadsheet that has really raised the profile of the issue - I know in the US there is the cops vs. black killing issue, but this is even bigger than that. US Cops kill large numbers of civilians. End of.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 0:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post gun control
will never happen here in an effective manner. (i am sure coxxy will be along shortly to explain why better than i)
but i DO worry, when the police no longer 'protect and serve' and are out for their own safety at whatever cost without proper training on defusing a situation. I have seen first hand how police intervention can escalate a situation with a mentally ill person that was not a deadly threat, but became one when 20 cops pointed guns at him.

When the people are the enemy, who protects the people?
saying this sort of thing, i get a looks like i am crazy.

(i clearly am)
 (I helped save b3ta! miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 0:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post We had a couple of spree killings with firearms that led to public opinion being in favour of tight gun control.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungerford_massacre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

You've had many more sprees yet public opinion never seems to have reached that critical point.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 9:06, , Reply)
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We dont have a 300 year old bit of paper that the gun companies claim allows everyone to be armed at all times.
Also we dont have hundreds of gun companies paying off politicians here to repeat the lie over and over again for the last 100+ years and brainwashing the yanks into thinking its a right to have guns.
Its about a much of a right as it is for them to be allowed to eat pizza.
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 10:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think we used to have stuff about being armed, mandatory archery practice etc.
But we moved with the times.

BTW Trufax*
One of the main drives behind the creation of the NHS was all the soldiers coming back after WW2 with a lot of them needing long term care.

The fact that the UK now had a large part of the working class UK population that was now hurting, angry and importantly still had their weapons including a lot of looted nazi guns may have lead to it's creation.

*may not be totally true but was told to me** by old time socialists.

** In the pub
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 12:07, , Reply)
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Yes just imagine if the fletchers and bowmakers had thought of bribing the government we might still all be packing longbows and having 2 hours of enforced archery practice every week.
We could all go Welsh hunting in Chester also, everyone trying to find a Welshman in the town of Chester after midnight.
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 13:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Still law apparently
Glad nobody ever tested it.

* Welshman, who grew up near Chester.
 (I helped save b3ta! rofl harris, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 17:32, , Reply)
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How about August bank holiday? we could organise a B3ta meetup and all chase you about Chester while trying to shoot you with longbows.
We could all shout nonsense about it being our rights and that you will take our bows from our cold dead hands etc etc..
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Tue 28 Jul 2015, 18:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do it properly
send out a dentist.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Wed 29 Jul 2015, 19:37, , Reply)