The 'another one' here
presumably means the Labour party's chances in the next general election.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sun 25 Sep 2016, 22:15,
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Your man Corbyn
wanted the IRA to win. Anyone who's against Britain, he's for. He admires Hamas. He won't sing the national anthem. He has no charisma, intellect or charm.
But you think he's going to win over a nation that voted for Brexit on a record turnout.
Not in a million years.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Mon 26 Sep 2016, 0:04,
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You need to stop using The Sun Says
As your primary news source
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simbosan liked your link on, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 1:18,
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I can't get my head around it.
What circumstances do you envisage that will make that happen?
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Mon 26 Sep 2016, 8:41,
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The replacement of the entire Parliamentary Labour Party
with Militant....Momentum candidates, the replacement of the entire population of the UK with Militant....Momentum. You get the idea. It's bonkers. The only winners here are the Tories and satirical media which will be kept in material for years.
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slartifartfast When all around are losing their heads, duck., Mon 26 Sep 2016, 8:56,
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they're not even debating Brexit at their conference the absolute crackpots
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But have they got onto the miner's strike yet?
That's all Corbyn seemed to want to talk about during the brexit vote.
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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 11:03,
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Saw Corbyn being interviewed on telly yesterday, and behind him was a Liverpool Dockers banner. Think that said it all really.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 11:34,
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I suppose this is the end of all those 1980s battles
The writing was on the wall for the Labour movement when Thatcher shut down the pits and moved the country away from manufacturing and into offices. That was a really jaw-dropping bit of social engineering. Dire consequences for huge numbers of people of course but it's effectively killed her opposition
Progressives will have to rally round something else now. Maybe Europe, maybe environmentalism, fuck knows what's going to happen
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Do you remember the 3 day week?
The fact that nothing worked in the 70s? ....especially the unions. They needed dismantling because they were actively harming the country. The Miner's strike wasn't caused by Thatcher, it was caused by Scargill and his fantasy that he was Lenin - True the escalation into violent protest meant she could come down like a ton of bricks, but frankly you reap what you sow.
What you call "her opposition" was why the country was fucked when she took over.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 12:10,
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well it also fucked whole communities many of which have yet to recover.
Moving everyone into the service sector also left us more vulnerable to economic shock and in need of cheap labour from abroad to prop it all up.
In well run places like northern europe, people who work in manufacturing tend to be valued, highly skilled, highly productive and globally competitive. Yet Corbyn's ok with us binning political connections to these places
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You mean in Germany, where 'competitive' means propping up the manufacturing industry
by co-ercing poorer states into borrowing money from an EU bank - co-incidentally based in Germany - to spend it on German engineering infrastructure.
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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 18:17,
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Yeah...
it's Germany's fault that:
1) the Greek government repeatedly mis-forecast it's GDP growth (for 2008 by around 15%)
2) the Greek government increased it's spending between 2004 and 2009 by over 80% but only increased tax revenue by around 40%
3) the Greek government delayed applying crucial economic measures in 2009 due to their upcoming elections
4) the Greek government's economic data was utter bullshit from at least 1999, particularly in 2010 when their public debt (which they had thought was 120% of GDP actually turned out to be 150% when they ran the numbers properly)
5) the Greek government ran a deficit of 13.6% of GDP instead of the European maximum limit of 3%. Admittedly, many other countries did similar, but they were countries that actually had viable economies and funds available to cope with it.
6) the Greek government essentially hid their problems for a decade by running a trade deficit allowing large amounts of capital inflow (e.g. foreign investment) to fill the gap in their finances, but when investors saw how fucked the economy really was all that money dried up.
7) the Greek government didn't bother to collect taxes properly for 3 decades, losing out on roughly $20 billion a year. That's about half of the tax they should have collected.
Clearly, all of this was Germany's fault. I blame Hitler tbh.
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What I find simply jaw dropping is the delusion
His supporters seem locked into that era, and seem to have learnt absolutely nothing from their defeat in the eighties. There's nothing wrong in having hard-left socialist principals, but don't expect everyone else to suddenly come round to them. It didn't happen back then, and it's not going to happen now. And dragging the labour party to the hard left as a government waiting in opposition is simply delusional, and will have only one outcome, unchecked Tory rule for a couple of elections.
So thanks guys
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 26 Sep 2016, 12:19,
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