also you're aware some plain drinking water can contain up to 0.1 mg of silver per litre and still be within EPA safety guidelines right?
the colliodal silver benefitial dose is one 5ml dose per day of 0.01- 0.0001 mg (what I use and others I know to kill single celled virus)
the official guidelines of the silver safety report (Jan 99) have 0.02 - 0.08mg per litre per day as a safe amount to be injested
the WHO puts it at 0.08mg of silver per day from diet
even with the colloidal silver dose of corrcetl;y made silver colloid of upper limit 0.01mg and (not mentioning all down to 0.0001) you still have a huge margin to stay within official guidelines
I'd be far more concerned about your mercury, aliminium and lead levels than silver which has no toxic effects
and as a side note I could recommend a very good detox invloving cilantro(corianda)should you choose to remove your amalgam fillings (which Terry Pratchett thinks caused his alzeimers)
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So why bother, and why mention it in the first place if you can get all you need from drinking water?
And you do realise that 0.01-0.0001 micrometer particles is not equivalent to 0.01-0.0001mg of silver, don't you?
Simply put, you were wrong about there being no research about the toxicity and side effects of colloidal silver. I have to do some work now.
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yep
I'm aware of my typos and grammar
silver in drinking water is not the same as colloidal silver with ionised distilled water
like I said are you aware of the official guidelines I quoted such as the WHO and the 99 Silver Safety report?
and again to labour the point unless the studies talk about particle size it's not telling us anything
plus it's worryingly genralised for something claiming to be an official report - it is very easy to get a sample tested after all to deternmine particle size
I have far too much to do too - I had only planned on a quick look at links but Codex is such an under reported improtant subject I couldn't resist
nice debating with you
peace :)
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Sorry, can I call bollocks here please?
I watched the terry Pratchett documentary and he did not state that he thinks his fillings caused his alzheimers. He said that he had been informed by some people on the internet that it is a possibility, but totally unproven. However, there would be no harm in avoiding any possible risk by having them replaced.
And anyway, even if he did think that the amalgam in his fillings did cause his alzheimers, what qualifies him to state it categorically? The man is an author, not a doctor or scientist.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Tue 10 Mar 2009, 15:09,
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ok
dont have a tv so can't comment although there is this:
Author Pratchett blames his Alzheimer's on mercury fillings
www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/15/mercury-fillings-alzheimers
lets disregards Pratchett then
some questions for you:
does amalgam fillings contain mercury?
is mercury toxic?
is any level of mercury in the body acceptable?
what are those levels?
and before you say it yes there's mercury in fish and the environment too
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OK, I shall answer these questions to the best of my knowledge.
Yes, they contain mercury.
Yes, mercury can be toxic.
No-one knows for certain. Whipping up mass hysteria over an unfounded supposition is just ludicrous.
EDIT: I have chronic asthma. I believe that it was caused by my mother eating Angel Delight when she was pregnant with me. I have no medical qualifications, but it is happening to me. Does that make me an expert? No. I agree, this is reductio ad absurdum, but it iterates my point that Terry Pratchett is in no way quallified to comment on what caused his alzheimers conclusively.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Tue 10 Mar 2009, 15:19,
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My Dads a dentist
and we were fairly hammered watching that Tonight episode on it, so the amount of shouting "you fucking idiots!" at the screen was plenty.
But anyway, he hasnt used amalgam for years, hes used "white fillings" for several reasons, but will still use amalgam in some cases as its more appropriate.. Hes an NHS dentist, and used to do alot of treatment not sanctioned by the NHS (cost issues) because he believed it was better for the patient, he was very naughty, and could have got a propper spanking for it. These days under the new contract NHS dentists can do what ever is best for their patient in their opinion, so its all peachy
As for amalgam, its been used for donkeys, my dads got amalgam fillings, they last for yonks, and do fuck all to you, there no evidence to say that they do. Removing them increases the risk of ingestion of mercury slightly, but whilst its in your gob your fine.
Now what made my dyed in the wool NHS dad start spitting, were the fucking morons spending thousands of pounds on some charlaton dentist wearing a fucking hazmat suit to remove perfectly fine and safe amalgam fillings for no reason other than spurious rumours.
But typicaly the BDA send some fucking moron to defend dentist, probably some old boys club private dentist that works 1 day a week..
NHS dentists need their own representation...
Hmmm I seem to be ranting, sorry..
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Do not worry about the rant at all :)
This is my point. If there were direct links they would have been found and amalgam would have been made illegal years ago! However, that means fuck all to these internet nutters.
It appears reading down the thread that any tough question to respond to has been ignored by him :)
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Tue 10 Mar 2009, 17:19,
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Just seen your edit
You're very sneaky, with all your little extra edits, aren't you?
"the colliodal silver benefitial dose is one 5ml dose per day of 0.01- 0.0001 mg (what I use and others I know to kill single celled virus)"
Right - viruses do not have cells. They take advantage of other organisms cells to use as virus-reproduction machines. By this statement, you acknowledge that your silver mixture attacks and kills your own cells (viruses may alter cell surface antigen expression, but as particles of silver couldn't be specific in that way, it's not relevant.)
Also, you've just said that tap water contains this amount of silver anyway, so drinking a litre of tap water would have the same effect (a greater effect, in fact, as you would be drinking more water.)
Furthermore, your excuse for not reading the research (despite the colloidal silver in those papers being manufactured in the same way as your own), is weak at best - why not just admit that you want to believe that it will help you, and purposely avoid reading anything that says otherwise?
And while I'm on a roll, please tell me how you know that your silver particles are the size you think they are - you have a microscope sensitive enough?
I strongly suspect you do not know what you are talking about. The viruses comment, along with the rubbish about silver having a different charge to bacteria, then moaning about ionic silver elsewhere (an ion is a charged particle - if your silver has 'a different charge' to bacteria, then we're dealing with ions). Seals the deal for me. Sorry Goat, you have shown yourself to be a fool.
"Peace".
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