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This is a normal post My understanding of the case is that it was not a medical error in any way.
It seems to have been the deliberate withholding of life-saving medical care in order to comply with the law. A law that the Irish Supreme Court has already ruled should be rewritten. A law that the European Court of Human Rights has demanded should be rewritten.

I don't argue that the UK has the right position here - far from it if your numbers are correct and relevant (i.e. not medically necessary). But to blanket ban a life-saving procedure under the flag of saving life is morally indefensible.

[edit] Let's do some number-crunching...

The Guardian has handily collected the data for abortions in England and Wales and Scotland (reported separately). Interestingly there were 4,149 abortions carried out on people travelling from Ireland in 2011. So not only does banning it in Ireland effectively export the problem, it actually inflates the figures that you're using to argue against it.

The 2011 census in Ireland showed a population of 4,588,252 (from here). If we assume that the population is split roughly 50/50 male/female (we can get an accurate number but I'm approximating for ease) and roughly two thirds of the females are of child-bearing age (see above), then we arrive at a figure of approx 1.5 million total females.

Combining this we find that in 2011 alone, roughly three out of every thousand Irish women of childbearing age were forced to travel to another country in order to get their pregnancy aborted.
(, Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Great post fishy

(, Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:58, , Reply)