As far as firearm related homicides, I think that culture has a lot to do with it. Japan's has become more centered, whereas the US culture has fragmented.
Right now, some people in the US are encouraging the murder of NRA members (with guns nonetheless) due to the shootings. Somewhat ironic.
I think putting things in perspective helps. Although, gun violence, receives wall to wall cable media coverage is a drop in the bucket when compared to drunk-driving deaths. Those receive a pathetic amount of attention from the media or legislators. The Center for Disease control states that 30 people die each day from DUI related deaths, or one every 48 minutes, but there seems to be little collective outrage.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 20:30,
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The drunk driving problem
Will never be solved until EVERY driver has a bottle of vodka, whiskey or rum in the glove compartment.
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Wait, you mean until we all become Russia? I see...
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 20:45,
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2 wrongs make a right?
Is that whats going on here?
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:06,
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So, faced with an article that fairly comprehensively shows that tighter firearm control would prevent massacres and hasn't led to Japan being overrun by opportunistic gun-toting crims,
you start talking about DUIs.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:10,
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I don't think it shows tighter firearm control would prevent massacres.
It is one part of a complex issue. I gave my opinion that culture may have something to do with it. If you look at Switzerland, they have higher gun ownership than the US, but less firearm related homicides.
Correlation does not equal causation.
The reason I put in the statistics about DUIs is that I find it odd that lives lost that way, or by the administration allowing firearms into Mexico causing the deaths of thousands of brown skinned people seem to garner less outrage. It is odd.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:17,
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The big difference between DUIs and guns is
that cars and booze have another primary purpose other than killing people and provide some value to society if used sensibly.
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I have been shooting since I was about 3. I have never killed a human and find much value and enjoyment in shooting.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:28,
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So do I, I shoot shotguns once a month
But every tom dick and harry shouldnt have a fucking Assault Rifel shoved under their bed.
Side Q, I'm aware fo gun laws in the UK, but what are ther rules for storing guns in the US?
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:36,
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I think it depends on where you store them.
Every pistol is sold with a trigger lock, but some people opt for gun safes or use barrel locks (basically a plastic covered metal cord that goes through the barrel and is locked at the end).
I do that with my rifles, but don't lock my pistols because seconds count. My dad always carried and we were taught from a young age both how to shoot and how much trouble we'd be in if we touched his pistol without permission.
I love to shoot assault rifles. Great challenge and I love the differences in each. I wouldn't keep one under my bed, though.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 17 Dec 2012, 21:44,
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But what does the law say?
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Tue 18 Dec 2012, 16:21,
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Basically, it makes you feel big and masculine, doesn't it?
I've shot a few guns and it is quite exciting. It's part of our culture - so many in films and games, waving guns around looking awesome.
That's fine. Keep it on the range in a secure environment and don't take them home with you. You can go out and scratch that itch and no one gets hurt. The moment you feel the need to keep a gun for defence or offence, you are a paranoid lunatic that is adding to the problem or a fucking idiot.
I can't think of one good reason why a sensible sane person with adequate faculties to make a grown up decision would need their own personal killing device and it shits on the memory of every single one of those dead children to suggest otherwise.
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