That hasn't been true for a few years now.
What overseas students have to do to continually prove attendance at real universities is ridiculous & humiliating. London Metropolitan recently lost its licence for foreign students as it didn't keep tight enough reign on them. Though I haven't followed the story recently- they may have got it back...
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:27,
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Universities need 3 contact points with overseas students in a year.
ed: I say overseas, I mean non-eu. EU students can do as they like.
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Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:29,
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The university I work at requires students to present their IDs a lot more than that.
There is a genuine sense of fear that the uni will lose its licence. And the woman I work with who deals with the foreign students knows them all by name & yet needs to see passports & student ID regularly....
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:38,
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Maybe she thinks they all look the same so she gets easily confused as to who they are.
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Might I make a suggestion for a new year's resolution for you, Flaps?
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:43,
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GWAAAAAN
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Actually it looks like the regs have changed since I last looked at them.
It's back to having cease sponsorship after 10 missed expected contacts, monitored twice a year.
ed: although in exceptional circumstances you can choose to not cease sponsorship, FFSUKBA.
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Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:46,
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Also, I'm not really sure how that proves they're attending lectures/seminars... etc.
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Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:58,
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I won't offer up a rant on this
but this has been a massive headache for HEIs. Especially when you get to PGRs who might not be in contact with a supervisor (at least in person) for quite a while.
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ok but...
the only bit of what you say i really take issue with is 'a few years', they have started, in a typically lame, limp and slow and bureaucratic way, to crack down on it in the last 18 months or so. and yes they did relent with london met, to my mind incorrectly. the problem with the london met, and many other similar shitty institutions is that they grant the visa, get some fees, and the 'students' just disappear. they take on students who aren't up to studying at a tertiary level in a second language cynically for the cash, so obviously the drop out rate is fucking huge, even for those who genuinely come to study. that's the real shame.
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I thought they'd really been tough with dodgy colleges.
But, knowing how this country operates, it wouldn't surprise me if that has been translated to "we will be tougher..."
The dodgy college/students disappearing used to be a massive problem- I thought it'd been stopped- I wouldn't be surprised if I were wrong.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:42,
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All sponsors now need HTS and that means needing Educational Oversight.
Basically this costs so much that it bankrupted most of the dodgy places. We had ours done by QAA, fucking cowboys.
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Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 26 Dec 2012, 21:51,
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QAA can stuff it up their arses.
Bunch of fucking cunts.
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Pig Bodine., Thu 27 Dec 2012, 0:35,
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