TJ - If anyone can recommend a good introductory text on the Gaza/Hamas/Palestine/Israel business (historically and current events) I'd be grateful. It's something I know very little about really.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:41, Share, Reply)
This is a good place to begin...
*Eidt* Sowwee
fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/R40101.pdf
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:45, Share, Reply)
*Eidt* Sowwee
fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/R40101.pdf
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:45, Share, Reply)
Hah - thanks for the link.
Will probably pick up a copy of this too, it's not a bad series of books.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:54, Share, Reply)
Will probably pick up a copy of this too, it's not a bad series of books.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:54, Share, Reply)
www.merip.org/sites/default/files/Primer_on_Palestine-Israel(MERIP_February2014)final.pdf
web.stanford.edu/group/sper/images/Palestine-Israel_Primer_MERIP.pdf
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 14:58, Share, Reply)
Basically that land was promised to the Jews by God but promised to the palestinians by the British
On the British were available to turn up as a witness in the small claims court.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:31, Share, Reply)
On the British were available to turn up as a witness in the small claims court.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:31, Share, Reply)
It's about population
The Israelis will never integrate the Palestinians into the state of Israel because the Palestinians have fuck off amounts of children which would overtake their own population in a couple of generations and thus undermine a Jewish nation state. That's it really.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:56, Share, Reply)
The Israelis will never integrate the Palestinians into the state of Israel because the Palestinians have fuck off amounts of children which would overtake their own population in a couple of generations and thus undermine a Jewish nation state. That's it really.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:56, Share, Reply)
I'm not a fan of rowdy kids either.
Feeling a bit conflicted now :/
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:57, Share, Reply)
Feeling a bit conflicted now :/
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 15:57, Share, Reply)
They've been at each other's throats since the nineteenth century
the aftermath of the holocaust and Jewish immigration to Palestine just accelerated the tensions over living space that had been bubbling away since Ottoman times. The Palestinians were simply on the wrong side of the effect of the world's guilt over millions of Europeans turning on their Jewish neighbours during the holocaust. They have consistently played, and been dealt, the wrong hand ever since.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:18, Share, Reply)
the aftermath of the holocaust and Jewish immigration to Palestine just accelerated the tensions over living space that had been bubbling away since Ottoman times. The Palestinians were simply on the wrong side of the effect of the world's guilt over millions of Europeans turning on their Jewish neighbours during the holocaust. They have consistently played, and been dealt, the wrong hand ever since.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:18, Share, Reply)
The Louis Theroux in Israel episode is terrifying.
The hatred some of those people have for Arabs...it's psychotic.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:07, Share, Reply)
The hatred some of those people have for Arabs...it's psychotic.
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:07, Share, Reply)
It's quite psychotic seeing television from various Muslim countries casually discussing killing Israeli's
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:25, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 16:25, Share, Reply)
True
The Gaza conflict is difficult because it's war, but giving some land and rights back to the Palestinians in the West Bank is completely within Israel's power, and would be a non-violent way for them to recover support, and so (in my opinion) do the right thing and the clever thing at the same time.
...I'm not optimistic though...
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 17:32, Share, Reply)
The Gaza conflict is difficult because it's war, but giving some land and rights back to the Palestinians in the West Bank is completely within Israel's power, and would be a non-violent way for them to recover support, and so (in my opinion) do the right thing and the clever thing at the same time.
...I'm not optimistic though...
( , Fri 25 Jul 2014, 17:32, Share, Reply)