Here's a devil's advocate response...
How much effort did you have to put into not eating shit loads of crap and being enormous? My guess, like me, not much. When I see morbidly obese people, I just wonder what is it in their brains that didn't say, as I would, "fuck, I've had too much". I don't find it that difficult, personally. I know when I've had enough crap food.
Similarly with people like Peter Hitchens, who aren't addicted to drugs and wonder why drug addicts choose to be "such a way", I wonder how much effort do they, as a non addict, have to put being a "non" addict.
I'm not expert, but I think addiction research would point towards it being more psychological, in that some brains are more susceptible to consuming behaviour.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:32, Share, Reply)
How much effort did you have to put into not eating shit loads of crap and being enormous? My guess, like me, not much. When I see morbidly obese people, I just wonder what is it in their brains that didn't say, as I would, "fuck, I've had too much". I don't find it that difficult, personally. I know when I've had enough crap food.
Similarly with people like Peter Hitchens, who aren't addicted to drugs and wonder why drug addicts choose to be "such a way", I wonder how much effort do they, as a non addict, have to put being a "non" addict.
I'm not expert, but I think addiction research would point towards it being more psychological, in that some brains are more susceptible to consuming behaviour.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:32, Share, Reply)
Yeah, but Peter Hitchens doesn't NEED drugs, because he's got TEAM RABID BATS living in his brain, chomping on his synapses.
GO TEAM RABID BATS!
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:46, Share, Reply)
GO TEAM RABID BATS!
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:46, Share, Reply)
I think that's broadly true.
Though after my experiences in dealing with/speaking to professionals there has to be a point where addicts actually take responsibility for their behaviour. A classic addict behaviour is to rewrite truths to paint themselves as 'innocent victims'.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:52, Share, Reply)
Though after my experiences in dealing with/speaking to professionals there has to be a point where addicts actually take responsibility for their behaviour. A classic addict behaviour is to rewrite truths to paint themselves as 'innocent victims'.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:52, Share, Reply)
Oh I'm sure will power and taking responsibility is colossal in battling any kind of addiction
But at the same time, I just wonder if the reason I'm not morbidly obese isn't because I work harder at not being obese, if that makes sense. Maybe I have less of an addictive personality.
I could be very wrong.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:11, Share, Reply)
But at the same time, I just wonder if the reason I'm not morbidly obese isn't because I work harder at not being obese, if that makes sense. Maybe I have less of an addictive personality.
I could be very wrong.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:11, Share, Reply)
There is sometimes a financial element.
Cheap food tends to be crap food.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:57, Share, Reply)
Cheap food tends to be crap food.
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I don't believe this. I am aware how cheap frozen pizzas &c can be.
You can make healthy meals for the same price. You just need the time, knowledge & inclination to cook.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:01, Share, Reply)
You can make healthy meals for the same price. You just need the time, knowledge & inclination to cook.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:01, Share, Reply)
Yes, but in terms of "how much effort does it take...",
expensive ready meals are okay for you, cheap ones are terrible.
Laziness is worse for you if you can't afford the expensive option.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:09, Share, Reply)
expensive ready meals are okay for you, cheap ones are terrible.
Laziness is worse for you if you can't afford the expensive option.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:09, Share, Reply)
Oh, yes, totally agree with you there.
Though that does rather sidestep the initial point.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:18, Share, Reply)
Though that does rather sidestep the initial point.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:18, Share, Reply)
Expensive ready meals are just expensive
There was research done by Which? a few years back that showed than many of the expensive ready meals were just as full of crap, if not more crap, than the cheap ones. In some cases the cheapo ones worked out better for you.
IMHO - it is all crap. "Instant food" is just re-heated rubbish massively over priced. Is it really that hard to make up a big pot of chill con carni and then freeze it up in pots oneself?
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 18:31, Share, Reply)
There was research done by Which? a few years back that showed than many of the expensive ready meals were just as full of crap, if not more crap, than the cheap ones. In some cases the cheapo ones worked out better for you.
IMHO - it is all crap. "Instant food" is just re-heated rubbish massively over priced. Is it really that hard to make up a big pot of chill con carni and then freeze it up in pots oneself?
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 18:31, Share, Reply)
I bow to your better judgement.
I was just going on how grim the baking tray gets.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:27, Share, Reply)
I was just going on how grim the baking tray gets.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:27, Share, Reply)
Ahem...
johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/custard-creams-are-cheaper-than-cous-cous-but-you-cant-expect-a-fucking-baroness-to-know-that/
It starts: "Anyone who claims that healthy food is a cheaper option has clearly never enjoyed the dubious nutitional delights of a pack of Everyday Value Custard Creams (35p, 1,972 calories).
They’ve also probably never been to a supermarket. Or at least never been to a supermarket with less than a tenner to last until the end of the week and two kids to feed. This hasn’t stopped a string of pompous twats from appearing in the media this week and telling us how much better they would be at being poor than the plebs using foodbanks."
And then gets into details.
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johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/custard-creams-are-cheaper-than-cous-cous-but-you-cant-expect-a-fucking-baroness-to-know-that/
It starts: "Anyone who claims that healthy food is a cheaper option has clearly never enjoyed the dubious nutitional delights of a pack of Everyday Value Custard Creams (35p, 1,972 calories).
They’ve also probably never been to a supermarket. Or at least never been to a supermarket with less than a tenner to last until the end of the week and two kids to feed. This hasn’t stopped a string of pompous twats from appearing in the media this week and telling us how much better they would be at being poor than the plebs using foodbanks."
And then gets into details.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:30, Share, Reply)
Although I avoid sugar, I am well aware how cheap custard creams are, and cheap, mass-produced food is usually loaded with sugar.
I don't know who wrote that blog, but some extremely carefully cherry-picked examples there. The paragraph about meatfree being no cheaper is based on some well-dodgy assumptions too.
He's right about well-off columnists patronising plebs with their poverty-toursim, though.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:46, Share, Reply)
I don't know who wrote that blog, but some extremely carefully cherry-picked examples there. The paragraph about meatfree being no cheaper is based on some well-dodgy assumptions too.
He's right about well-off columnists patronising plebs with their poverty-toursim, though.
( , Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:46, Share, Reply)