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This is a link post Obesity 'could be a disability'
No it's not.
It's food.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 14:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's not food.
IT'S PEOPLE.
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 14:41, , Reply)
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People + Food = Chunky fun!
 (I helped save b3ta! Fadgebadger (1 like), Thu 18 Dec 2014, 14:47, , Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 14:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahahaha
I want clothes like that
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah alright Buffalo Bill.

(I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post So, it took about 29 years for this to become unfunny.

(Victoria'sBeard Different political view? I hate you!, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeeeeahh
so they're saying being obese is a disability. I disagree, although the cause may be a mental disability. But as soon as you say that then what about alcoholics? Or people who murder too much? What stupid times we live in. I say name and shame these fatties into losing weight.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah.
As if murdering too much could even possibly be a real thing.
 (I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you only do a little, it's probably healthy.

(eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post Eat your veggies.

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post But don't eat vegans
Not enough meat on them.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 17:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post or buy them a muumuu
Speaking of muumuu:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-30484034
 (I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've seen Jennifer Lawrence's
muumuu
 (I helped save b3ta! Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's just Gluttony
One of the seven deadly sins Gluttony was first defined by the Egyptian Monk Evagius Ponticus as "anxiety about one's health, or becoming ill". Perversely in some people this anxiety can cause them to to overeat presumably because they are overly afraid of starving. Conversely gluttony can mean for some people that they stopping eating altogether. So Morbid Obesity and Anorexia are pretty much the same thing -Gluttony - an insane reaction to fear of illness or death. They are very much mental disorders as "normal" well balanced people don't react to this fear of illness/death in such an insane way.
Evagius died in 399AD so overeating or anorexia are not new phenomena. Being a little overweight or slightly obsessive about being thin/exercising are just mild versions of the same mental disorder. Taking it to morbid extremes is without doubt a mental disability and needs corrective psychological treatment. The question in this case perhaps ought to be - should insane people be allowed to care for children? People don't like being called insane, but that's what they really are - if you habitually act in an insane way you are by definition insane.
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post How do you define acting in an insane way?

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 22:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post "I believe it will also cause friction in the workplace between obese people and other workers."

(I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post It causes friction when you have to sit next to one of these fat people on a bus or the train
literally
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not if they sweat a lot

(tcp, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 21:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Here's a devil's advocate response...
How much effort did you have to put into not eating shit loads of crap and being enormous? My guess, like me, not much. When I see morbidly obese people, I just wonder what is it in their brains that didn't say, as I would, "fuck, I've had too much". I don't find it that difficult, personally. I know when I've had enough crap food.

Similarly with people like Peter Hitchens, who aren't addicted to drugs and wonder why drug addicts choose to be "such a way", I wonder how much effort do they, as a non addict, have to put being a "non" addict.

I'm not expert, but I think addiction research would point towards it being more psychological, in that some brains are more susceptible to consuming behaviour.
 (BarryFromTheShitFarm Oh, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, but Peter Hitchens doesn't NEED drugs, because he's got TEAM RABID BATS living in his brain, chomping on his synapses.
GO TEAM RABID BATS!
 (I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think that's broadly true.
Though after my experiences in dealing with/speaking to professionals there has to be a point where addicts actually take responsibility for their behaviour. A classic addict behaviour is to rewrite truths to paint themselves as 'innocent victims'.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh I'm sure will power and taking responsibility is colossal in battling any kind of addiction
But at the same time, I just wonder if the reason I'm not morbidly obese isn't because I work harder at not being obese, if that makes sense. Maybe I have less of an addictive personality.

I could be very wrong.
 (BarryFromTheShitFarm Oh, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post There is sometimes a financial element.
Cheap food tends to be crap food.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 15:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't believe this. I am aware how cheap frozen pizzas &c can be.
You can make healthy meals for the same price. You just need the time, knowledge & inclination to cook.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, but in terms of "how much effort does it take...",
expensive ready meals are okay for you, cheap ones are terrible.

Laziness is worse for you if you can't afford the expensive option.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, yes, totally agree with you there.
Though that does rather sidestep the initial point.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Expensive ready meals are just expensive
There was research done by Which? a few years back that showed than many of the expensive ready meals were just as full of crap, if not more crap, than the cheap ones. In some cases the cheapo ones worked out better for you.

IMHO - it is all crap. "Instant food" is just re-heated rubbish massively over priced. Is it really that hard to make up a big pot of chill con carni and then freeze it up in pots oneself?
 (I helped save b3ta! Batter Pudding Hurler is a figment of your imagination, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 18:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post I bow to your better judgement.
I was just going on how grim the baking tray gets.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ahem...

johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/custard-creams-are-cheaper-than-cous-cous-but-you-cant-expect-a-fucking-baroness-to-know-that/

It starts: "Anyone who claims that healthy food is a cheaper option has clearly never enjoyed the dubious nutitional delights of a pack of Everyday Value Custard Creams (35p, 1,972 calories).

They’ve also probably never been to a supermarket. Or at least never been to a supermarket with less than a tenner to last until the end of the week and two kids to feed. This hasn’t stopped a string of pompous twats from appearing in the media this week and telling us how much better they would be at being poor than the plebs using foodbanks."

And then gets into details.
 (SonofRojBlake, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Although I avoid sugar, I am well aware how cheap custard creams are, and cheap, mass-produced food is usually loaded with sugar.
I don't know who wrote that blog, but some extremely carefully cherry-picked examples there. The paragraph about meatfree being no cheaper is based on some well-dodgy assumptions too.
He's right about well-off columnists patronising plebs with their poverty-toursim, though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think I'm with Tabs on that
It's possible to eat very healthily, very cheaply if you know what you're doing.

You'd only ever buy a cheap ready meal that's high in saturated fat through laziness.

Fuck, I've done it plenty.
 (BarryFromTheShitFarm Oh, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 16:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's not possible to eat very healthy on a very tight budget.
Healthy protein is pricey. You can eat half decent though.
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Thu 18 Dec 2014, 22:42, , Reply)