A forced stall and forced landing is usually
done as you are basically coasting in to land - your flaps are fully extended, the plane is level, oriented towards the runway and your airspeed is low - so essentially when you stall you just glide in, open the throttle, start the ignition and hopefully the engine roars into life and off you go.
When you stall at height you're at the mercy of wind currents and other effects (torsion, wind shear etc.) and of course if the engine doesn't restart it's a long way down rather than just a scary landing.

Bear in mind I am not a pilot and am reminiscing about stuff I went through 30 odd years ago.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 12:57, 4 replies)

shut up.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 13:14, closed)

Oh Janet.
If I gave a flying fuck about you and what you have to say that comment might've hurt my feelings.
A little bit.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 13:24, closed)

i'm glad you took the time to notarise that.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 13:26, closed)

Roger that.
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(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 13:28, closed)

oh wow, the phonetic alphabet? amazing.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 13:36, closed)

inorite?

(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 14:07, closed)

Hmm?
Just glide in? But the thing about a stall is that either the airspeed is too low to sustain flight, or the angle of attack is too high - so that instead of flowing over and under the wings, the air just buffets the under-side of the wing ineffectively. The point is that when you stall, you're no longer gliding, you're falling. The only way out of a stall near landing is to push the throttle to max and hope that the engines have enough power to get you up to flying speed before you hit the ground - as the "nose-down" tactic is no longer an option.

Or am I missing something :)
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 14:09, closed)

shut up.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 14:18, closed)

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
(TheManHimself Beer Drinkin', Breath Stinkin', Sniffing Glue, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 15:24, closed)

Are you this charming in real life?

( 4Q just lurking, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:56, closed)

what is your point here, please?

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 18:20, closed)

You're a charmless hag.
No wonder your husband pushed you down the stairs while you were sleepwalking.
( 4Q just lurking, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 18:34, closed)

OH ZING!!!

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 21:50, closed)

Quoting things from profiles = internet victory.
imjussayin
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:21, closed)

Haha, yeah.
I should have typed them all out myself, that would have illustrated the point so much better.
( 4Q just lurking, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:35, closed)

yabu
imjussayin
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Mon 1 Apr 2013, 0:26, closed)

I envisage her and shambolina being perfect partners.
Having furious internet sex to produce snarling, angry cyber-succubi.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:52, closed)

I think we're both coming at it from slightly different angles.
When she was getting her instructors license the only stalls my mum had to do were what I call a "forced stall" which can then become a forced landing if the engine fails to catch. We've both described this fairly well separately. She also used to make her students practise these as well as stalling higher up.

I think my mum's reasoning for cutting the engines much higher up (don't know what the ceiling was but I'm guessing over 1500 feet) was that you don't have that margin of error whereby you can simply land (albeit fairly roughly) if you stall just off the ground - once you commit to a course of action at a greater height there is less of a "plan b" than just a rough landing.
Thanks for the input - you a pilot?
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:49, closed)

I see your point
And no - I'm no more of a pilot than a Microsoft Flight Simulator enthusiast ;)
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 1 Apr 2013, 11:09, closed)

I think..
...that you are maybe using 'stall' to mean 'the engine stopping' (as you might use the term in a car).

In aviation, 'stall' is only really used to describe an aerodynamic phenomenon i.e. the loss of lift over an aerofoil (normally the wings). You can have stalls in jet engines due to the loss of lift in compressor blades, but it doesn't sound like this is what you mean.

In any case, if you replace "stall" with "simulated engine failure" in your post, then both your and EuroSong's post make total sense.
(silene, Mon 1 Apr 2013, 12:05, closed)

Actually
I think you're right. Re-reading the OP in the context of engine cutting out makes a lot more sense.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 1 Apr 2013, 15:05, closed)

Anyway
I'm off to play Portal 2. See you later.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Sun 31 Mar 2013, 14:09, closed)

'Flaps'
Pfffft.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 21:53, closed)

feeling queasy whilst watching my mum put some novice pilot thu their paces.
"hands on learning"
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Sun 31 Mar 2013, 22:41, closed)