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[challenge entry] The experiment is over

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(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:38, archived)
# Fucking blue bastard!
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:39, archived)
# I for one welcome our new To' Ri overlords
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:40, archived)
# exactly
where's a "hole in the heart" when you need one...
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:42, archived)
# fucking hell....the hair.
also i feel the need to tell t'internets i'm off to see james chance live tonight. HURRAH! PRAISE THE FUCKING LORD!
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:42, archived)
# nicely

(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:51, archived)
# Is he the one with the orchestra and the easy listening muzak?
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:57, archived)
# thats james last.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:02, archived)
# nicely
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:48, archived)
# I thought I'd at least photoshop something if I had to do a political post.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:49, archived)
# TJ: I just heard Brown on the BBC....
I can't believe he did not resign!

*What a twat!
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:48, archived)
#
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:49, archived)
# For once, I agree with you
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:52, archived)
# Good lad
*pats head, gives cookie*
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:55, archived)
# he's spent his whole career clawing his way to the top
he's not going to give it all up without some fireworks
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:53, archived)
# I disagree about him being a twat
The last week or so I've started to believe that he honestly weants to do the best for the country, whereas certain other party leaders are only in for themselves and their mates

And I thought the speech was Ok... very sensible.

Only half an hour til Cameron tries to smarm his way round the public
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:54, archived)
# Get your sick bags ready!
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:57, archived)
# Hang on just a second.
Cameron has every right to smarm his way around. He's just gained more seats than a firmly entrenched political party.

He's done this with a larger share of the vote than Labour did at the last election too. He's won, its his call. This is what we voted for.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:59, archived)
# I didn't. I voted for the other ones.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:00, archived)
# I certainly didn't vote for him :o
I'm just hoping the net gain from this is Proportional representation for the UK..

Otherwise the Welsh, Scottish and Irish can get our saws out and start cutting at that border :P
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:02, archived)
# actually
take a look at the number of seats per percentage of vote, it's quite interesting.

the tories come in at about 8.2 seats per percentage point and labour at 8.7. clearly labour are slightly preferred. the lib dems are down at 2.4 and suffering badly. we knew all this before. the snp are also suffering, at 3.5 seats per percentage point and plaid are at 5.

but sinn fein are at 8, almost up with the tories. and the fucking dup are on 13.3 and will be the most over-represented group in this parliament, if you choose to believe in that as a metric.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:05, archived)
# I will be interested to see the actual breakdown of what we would have got this election with PR...
..yes I know that we might end up with some BNP in the mix :(...

but atm 50 odd seats (this is about 1/12th i think ) for a party that garners about 25% of the vote seems rather sickening.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:11, archived)
# oh yeah
that's why the lib dems are way down at 2.4 seats per percentage point. the greens are even worse off, they got 1 seat per percentage point.

i actually have no real firm opinion on pr. i don't like party politics and i don't like the disjunction between you and "your" "representative" that you get in pr systems, but that doens't mean that the current system is sane. the lib dems are clearly horribly under-represented, and though i don't like the tories much they're also clearly hampered and labour are artificially boosted.

anyway, too much politics, too few jokes.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:13, archived)
# So did most of the country

(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:03, archived)
# I just draw a big magenta cdc on my ballot paper.
* I though that's how b3tains voted?
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:12, archived)
# But he still doesn't have a majority of seats, nor more than 50% of the vote.
And I think he's already done enough smarming for one lifetime.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:00, archived)
# It's not his fault that Labour have had 13 years to stitch up the constituencies.
Nobody said 'Tony Blair shouldn't be Prime Minister' in 2005 despite him getting a lot fewer votes than the conservatives did this time.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:03, archived)
# That's because he ahd the majority of seats!
I've spent most of the morning explaining how the election works on the DM site.
i didn't expect to have to do it here as well
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:04, archived)
# Given that I've studied constitutional law, I suspect your explanation would benefit me very little.
suggesting that in any meaningful sense David Cameron hasn't won the election is pretty retarded.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:08, archived)
# Yes, he's won the election
but that doesn't mean he's won the right to be prime minister
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:14, archived)
# He will be though
admit it.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:29, archived)
# I don't think this goverment is actually the worst for jerrymandering as i recall....
..plus i think several of the new constituencies actually had a tory advantage in the areas they were made.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:06, archived)
# I actually lolled at this comment.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:10, archived)
# No problem :)
Tories have the same effect on me, normally followed by vomitting.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:16, archived)
# hahaha
so the tories aren't also a firmly entrenched party?

and he's not won, he's just won the popular vote. like it or not, that doesn't mean fucking diddly in the british system -- and cameron can't even protest that since he's spent the last few weeks denying that we need to ditch first past the post. yeah, he's got the most seats, but since he's not got a majority that also means diddly.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:02, archived)
# I'm talking about substantive entrenchment.
You can only do that when in power.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:05, archived)
# yeah
but he's still not won. by the system he's *defended* (accusations of gerrymandering by labour and all), he's not won, he's ended up as the largest party in a currently toothless parliament.

(personally much as it pains me to say it i actually feel brown should stand down and cameron have the first chance at government; he's got the popular vote and the largest party. but that's not how precedent dictates it, and with the lack of a proper written constitution and all we go with precedent. also, fuck brown, i just don't like cameron. worse, i don't like the idea of osbourne as chancellor.)
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:08, archived)
# How lucky you are that what you 'feel' should happen is what will happen.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:11, archived)
# would you say that's for certain?
and why? so far as i can gather brown's got the right to stay on and try and form a government. without lib dem support that's clearly a no-goer but the lib-dems are keeping their gobs shut in public so far as i can see.

and i've as much and just as little right to "feel" that something should happen as anyone.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:16, archived)
# Isnt it what Ted Heath tried to do btw?....
...just no fucker wanted to deal with him :P
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:18, archived)
# so far as i can gather
and he failed just the way i suspect brown will if he tries cos i don't think anyone wants to deal with brown, either...
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:20, archived)
# Why would he?
It's a hung parliament, no matter what the Tories are trying to pretend. There's precedent in these situations -- the sitting Prime Minister remains as Prime Minister until it's clear that he doesn't have the support of the house. Nothing will be clear for a few days, until the Lib Dems and the various nationalists make it clear who, if anyone, they'll swing behind.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 13:59, archived)
# Even with the libdems on side, Labour can't get overall control
Sorry but the LibDems didn't take enough votes from the Tories.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:12, archived)
# no, they didn't
they failed miserably. labour/lib dem could form a minority coalition. there's enough nationalist parties in there that the tories couldn't bank on out-voting them each time. it wouldn't be particularly stable, but it could be viable for a while. it'd be labour's only hope so far as i can see.

i don't see tory/lib dem working out, sorry. which means the tories also don't have a majority and could try a minority government, also hoping for support from the various nationalist parties. then that wouldn't be particularly successful either.

doesn't matter how anyone tries to phrase it - it's a hung parliament. brown has first right to form a government, he'll fail, he'll resign, cameron will form a government, he'll fail, he'll call an election, he'll get returned with a clear majority, life will go on.

too much politics, too few jokes.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:19, archived)
# I think last night proved that British politics IS a joke
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:23, archived)
# hahaha
probably
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:26, archived)
# Perhaps...
but niether can the Tories due to no majority, unless they get Lib dem support or at least a abstention on some matters.
The encumbent Prime Minister has the first dibs on a go it seems. But you'd know this you studied (and I hope passed) constitutional law :)
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:22, archived)
# In practical terms the hung parliament would only really matter if BOTH labour and the conservatives could form a MAJORITY coalition government.
Given that only the Conservatives can actually do this.

I would be extremely surprised if the Conservatives weren't running the country by the end of next week, traditional mechanisms notwithstanding.
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:32, archived)
#
n i
(, Fri 7 May 2010, 14:50, archived)