that's a bit of a stark statement, do you not like that nice mr. howard?
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:15,
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that he is a total and utter cunt of the highest order.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:22,
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I'm not going to vote Labour cos of the war, but I want Labour to stay in, just without Blair. So who am I supposed to vote for? I'm going for the Lib Dems but not out of any conviction..
But yes, the Tories would have been even more willing to lie and kiss Bush's arse than Blair.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:16,
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But yes, the Tories would have been even more willing to lie and kiss Bush's arse than Blair.

VOTE
and I saw a funny tory scaremongering election broadcast last night saying "the liberal democrats will have no limits on immigration, and they will give prisoners the vote!" And I thought, yes, I know, that's why I'm voting for them...
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:20,
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They're all scaremongering, it's what you do in first past the post system.
But I live in one of the strongest Labour seats in London anyway so it's makes fuck all difference who I voted for.. therefore I think I'll vote SNP!
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:25,
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But I live in one of the strongest Labour seats in London anyway so it's makes fuck all difference who I voted for.. therefore I think I'll vote SNP!
at least they pretend to care about important stuff.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:28,
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either join the Labour party, become an activist and work for change within the party.
or make a Flash animation of a singing Michael Howard.
one of these will take a lot of hard work and may just get some results at some point, the other enables you to look cool and anti-establishment whilst doing no real good and possibly some harm.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:36,
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or make a Flash animation of a singing Michael Howard.
one of these will take a lot of hard work and may just get some results at some point, the other enables you to look cool and anti-establishment whilst doing no real good and possibly some harm.
it really baffles me why so many people leave the Labour party cos they don't like Blair.
If you don't like him (and I'm none to keen on the two faced git), stay in the Labour party where your protests will be heard more clearly.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:40,
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If you don't like him (and I'm none to keen on the two faced git), stay in the Labour party where your protests will be heard more clearly.
but some of the people who are leaving are the kind of people who could make a difference (influential journalists and whatnot). And if one person is making a fuss, there's an extra option: tacit support. It's cheap, it's easy and it makes a difference.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:46,
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Tony Blair isn't just the figurehead of this new Thatcherite party he's the whole reason for it's exsistance. Even without him it wouldn't be the Labour Party - people need to move on and find a genuine socialist alternative.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:44,
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but I'll stick to muttering "Sure Start".
And if you don't vote for anyone, then I'll be blaming you if the Tories get in.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:48,
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And if you don't vote for anyone, then I'll be blaming you if the Tories get in.
you blame those who have become disenfranchised rather than blame the system and the fact that genuine socialists are kept out of democratic process. Blame me if you like but you'd be wrong to do so, and carry on in you delusion that the Labour Party will come good eventually. I'll stick to Trade Unionism from the rank & file!
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:51,
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at least you're doing something
*buries hatchet*
*leaves handle sticking out of the ground, just in case*
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 10:02,
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*buries hatchet*
*leaves handle sticking out of the ground, just in case*
a socialist revival within the rank and file membership. And that doesn't mean the likes of Benn and Galloway and Livingstone but real socialists.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:41,
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and I don't care whether that means a bunch of wankers rule the country, because at the end of the day unless the Left is united then whatever you might think we ARE disenfranchised and no amount of voting/activism within a corrupt Labour Party will put it right.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:47,
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we'd still have serfdom*
*may be a huge exaggeration, but less so than that "Blair is as bad as Thatcher" bollocks
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:49,
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*may be a huge exaggeration, but less so than that "Blair is as bad as Thatcher" bollocks
instead of a system run by beaurocrats and self-appointment disciples of Capitalism.
And Blair is as bad as Thatcher but he's clever with it as he tries to fool people into thinking he's doing all this stuff in their interests but he will run the country into the ground just as sure as Thatcher did only not as quickly and not be as hated as her.
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Wed 27 Apr 2005, 9:53,
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And Blair is as bad as Thatcher but he's clever with it as he tries to fool people into thinking he's doing all this stuff in their interests but he will run the country into the ground just as sure as Thatcher did only not as quickly and not be as hated as her.
Shudda got a b3tan to make their posters.
Oh...

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