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(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:50, archived)
# *maths exam flashbacks*
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:51, archived)
# I was crap at maths and my teacher had halitosis
I feel the 2 things are related
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:52, archived)
# I was crap in maths as were all my teachers.
But my momma, she's a maths genius or whatever, so she refused to have me be shit- I got home schooling. For free. All the time. Constantly.

So much so that I was considering doing a degree in it (thank fuck I didn't.)
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:53, archived)
# indeed
you might have become dull and uninteresting
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:54, archived)
# Like...
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:57, archived)
# people i know
who've done maths degrees.

but you didn't and you're not :D
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:59, archived)
# My ma's bloody ace and she did several.
But then she's my ma, and thus better than everyone else.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:00, archived)
# My mum's dead
so your mum probably is better
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:01, archived)
# i don't know your ma
so wasn't including her in my analysis

there's always one interesting freak on maths degrees, normally identified by being in possession of a social life (nod)
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:01, archived)
# She had that in great quantities
I don't think she was sober at all at uni.

Also, I'm going home.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:03, archived)
# *snogs*
Goodnight, lovely!
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:06, archived)
# Well avoided.
Maths looks like a horrible, horrible degree.
The maths in Physics was horrible enough.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:54, archived)
# i've been doing maths all afternoon
well, stats... and for the last 2 hours.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:56, archived)
# I got an A in A level stats.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:57, archived)
# A level stats is a piece of piss.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:59, archived)
# these days
A level anything is a piece of piss!

badum
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:59, archived)
# I know it is.
I also got a first in Maths for Physics 2 at Uni.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:59, archived)
# I don't think I did too well in my maths modules.
Luckily my physics made up for it.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:02, archived)
# I'm doing stats on my experiment results for my phd
and i'm terribly bored with it, although it's almost finished so I'm procrastinating now.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:01, archived)
# I feel your pain.
I find stats horribly confusing.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:58, archived)
# it's no longer confusing, as I've done the stats
I'm just writing them up and it's highly boring.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:03, archived)
# Ah right.
Did you manage to get a statistician to help, or did you have to wade through all that crap yourself?
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:04, archived)
# waded
help is frowned upon i think. it all makes sense and looks nice, but all the blah blah blah
F(1,19)= blah blah is annoying and i have to try not to constantly repeat myself, despite having to constantly repeat myself.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:06, archived)
# Why don't you just use Matlab or Maple or something.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:07, archived)
# I used SAS
it's genius. A bit of programming language, then it read the results file and spits out all the stats, anovas and so on, so it could have been worse. I'm just moaning about the write-up, since i need to hand it in on monday.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:10, archived)
# I'm hoping to not have too much stats to do on my MSc project.
But I'll have shit loads of numbers to wade through, and so far I have no idea what I'll do with them.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:08, archived)
# I hate stats
Absolutely loathe them. Which is, of course, why I'ev ended up doing too much fucking statistics for the last four fucking years. I have *no* idea what I'm doing.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 19:40, archived)
# I was going to do pure maths.
then I thought '....don't be silly'.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:56, archived)
# I have a friend who did pure maths
He can prove that 2 + 2 does not equal four
But he has to wear flip flops
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:00, archived)
# Flip flops are excellent for spanking.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:00, archived)
# indeed
But he wears them cos he hasn't got the ability to tie shoe laces
also I prefer a plimsole if I'm doing any spanking
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:02, archived)
# Flipflops for bare arse
Plimsole on jeans
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:04, archived)
# Rolled up magazine on jeans.
Right, now I really am off *hug* good to have you back love. See you all x
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:06, archived)
# See you lovely
xxx hugs
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:08, archived)
# I'm doing a physics degree at Uni,
I laugh at your maths woes.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:56, archived)
# Maths is cocking ace.
It's like Physics except with imaginary things which don't really exist.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:57, archived)
# ALL maths has a purpose at at least some level.
It's all real.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 17:59, archived)
# Except the surreal numbers.
Which don't actually exist as they are made from imaginary units.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:03, archived)
# Do any numbers exist?
/did a module in the metaphysics of maths blog
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:04, archived)
# Well sort of.
You can count out a real number of items, or use them to establish quantity or distance.

4+3i Chestnuts on the other hand makes no sense whatsoever.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:05, archived)
# You can have a number of items,
but you can't isolate a number.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:07, archived)
# The imaginary unit felt fairly isolated, all the other numbers were off playing with their families.
But he had no real roots.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:08, archived)
# They could have tried to integrate him into the group.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:09, archived)
# I think we've been down this avenue before....
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:10, archived)
# All puns have been done on the internet.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:12, archived)
# According to Plato they exist in the 'World of Forms'
but generally speaking numbers are just concepts.

Can't experience the number three after all... can only apply it.

(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:09, archived)
# I think my conclusion over the course was that they don't exist at all,
they're just a handy manmade construct.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:11, archived)
# So is a Sherman tank.
Isn't to say that it doesn't exist though.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:17, archived)
# I phrased it badly.
I mean made up by man to help explain the world.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:19, archived)
# So Physics doesn't exist either?
Einstein's special relativity was an explanation of how the universe interacts, so presumably it doesn't exist. Anyway i'm being facetious now.

Numbers are to objects what letters are to sounds. The numbers and letters as them self don't really mean much, but their link to sounds, words, quantities or distances gives them their meaning and conceptual value.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:21, archived)
# Physics exists as a system of equations and theories which happen to fit with reality.
It's just a way for us to explain what happens in the outside world.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:33, archived)
# But surely Maths is just equations which explain the relationships between quantities and distances and areas and volumes.
Almost all known fields hinge on some vitally arbitrary measure, whether that be numbers or letters or words, both maths and physics could no doubt be rethought it completely different ways with nothing which even resembles numbers. But it would still be the same expression just using different measures.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:40, archived)
# Yes, that sounds about right.
You seem to be agreeing with me now that numbers are useful, but made-up things.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:43, archived)
# Yes, but I'm in the camp that all known language, science and knowledge is an adequate representation of how we experience things.
But nonetheless is all made up. I don't think it's just numbers.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:46, archived)
# Ok.
This is strange. I don't think I've agreed with anyone on b3ta before.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:48, archived)
# That's probably because agreement is only the synchronisation of false concepts.
*nods gravely*
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:55, archived)
# ^ this
where "reality" is "the brain's interpretation of the signals provided by the body's sensory apparatus"
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:41, archived)
# Ah, now we have philosophy of mind in the mix too.
That's a useful thing to know about, because it can undermine basically any argument.
I know I've pissed off a few people with it in the past.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:44, archived)
# God I love Solipsism.
Best thing ever.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:50, archived)
# I found I can't take 'real' Solipsists seriously
Anyone who doesn't believe in other people is possibly dangerous
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:58, archived)
# As a Solipsist I would take exception to that comment.
But i'm afraid I can't because you don't exist.


I think even the most hardened of Solipsists don't actually think that other people don't exist, because that would be a blatant assumption on par with god like faith. They can never be sure, and they can never really know if other people experience the same degree of consciousness they do, nor if anything they see or interact with is a real representation of reality.

I wouldn't say they are dangerous though, the philosophical types tend to be quite depressive and non influential in the greater scheme of things.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 19:05, archived)
# go and tell it to Descartes ;)
I'm quite fond of the solipsistic view myself, as long as one doesn't cross a certain border. It's always good to bear in mind that the world we perceive is literally virtual to an extent, but one should nonetheless accept it as 'reality' in everyday life.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 19:17, archived)
# imaginary numbers aren't actually imaginary numbers,
they do exist... kinda...
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:05, archived)
# I got tired with all the different differentiation/integration techniques.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:00, archived)
#
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:04, archived)
# I see nothing there
I assume I am ignoring whoever it is..

Who/what is it?
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:05, archived)
# Mongy.
Yes, yes, I'm going.
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:07, archived)
# Going where?
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:07, archived)
# Home!
Niiiiight!
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:07, archived)
# Ah just saw :)
Niiiiiiiiiiiight!
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:08, archived)
# Mongychops, saying "nice shop"
/always going for the cheap ones
ooooh, another ambiguity ;)
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:09, archived)
# also: Hi!
*rubs*
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:10, archived)
# Keep rubbing, I'm almost on fire ;)
Hullo
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:12, archived)
# *frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrb*ewwwwwwwwwwwww
I see you're going to the London bash again. Have fun and don't talk too bad about the Germans :D
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:18, archived)
# My favouritist person in the world is German
I wouldn't dream of it ;)
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:20, archived)
# Is it me?
/Manley
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:25, archived)
# Ooh you and your second-hand platitudes
:P
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:11, archived)
# MUHAHAHA
(, Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:23, archived)