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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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No it doesnt but a lot of members accept that the voters speak for them without having to vote.
My main point though is that it is a classic Tory tactic to deflect the attention away from the reason for the strike back onto the strikers to avoid having to deal with the cause.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:29, 2 replies, latest was 10 years ago)
Too fucking right that a minimum of 50% of members need to vote. Most of these cunts are public sector workers or a version thereof e.g. tube drivers.
Most of the pay/pension structures that the unions are bitching about now weren't enacted by the Tories.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:39, Reply)
Oh they probably shouldn't complain then

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:44, Reply)
Well, they probably shouldn't blame people that weren't responsible just because they're Tories.

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:45, Reply)
don't be deliberately obtuse.

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:05, Reply)
Well I don't understand the relevance of your point.

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:10, Reply)
But the tories aren't the unions friends.
Calling it "a classic tactic" doesn't mean anything.
It's the tories perogative to keep unions at bay, and unions job to keep members engaged. That's politics.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:45, Reply)
Except the Tories have the power to change the rules, making it harder for the unions to keep their members engaged.
Look at young AA down there, he's grown up thinking that groups representing the interests of workers are somehow a bad thing.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:52, Reply)
I see.
Well, the government have been voted in by a majority, so that's what the people want from their government. But they're also from a low turn out vote. So, I guess I have to apologise and back track to, if you hold unions to a minimum vote, then you must also hold all elections to the same standard.

I still am not sure about unions, but I can accept that it should be one rule for all.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 10:59, Reply)
governments may have a majority of MPs but it's incredibly rare that they have a majority of votes.
And that's putting to one side the fact that a 40% turnout is good.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:01, Reply)
I understand that,
The way it works is not ideal.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:13, Reply)
The Tories got about 35% of the vote at the last election.

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:02, Reply)
That's more than a third,
3 big parties plus independents, makes a majority.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:15, Reply)
The second party got roughly a third as well
Of a two thirds turnout.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:17, Reply)
10.7m voters out of 47.5m registered voters for the Tories.
In a country with a population of 64.1m.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:21, Reply)
Unions work to represent the interests of their members
Big businesses have far more influence over a lot of government policy than the electorate.
(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:03, Reply)
Fair point well made

(, Fri 18 Jul 2014, 11:04, Reply)

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