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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
B3ta user: XXXXX

Hey there,
I am very fond of your site and regularly waste valuable time staring at it. In the last few months there has been an increase in trolls and I think this is purely the fault of the regular posters.

The 10 or 12 people who constantly post on the board have formed a clique of the kind rarely seen outside of a girls catholic boarding school.

Any person outside of this circle who posts slightly over the limit is called a cunt and told to fuck off, hardly reasonable.

People with limited photoshop skills are sworn at and threatened for producing the much derided 'text on a picture images'. Again it is hardly fair to these people, when to be honest most of them are just trying to join in with the fun.

When the clique is pulled up on there threatening manner they justify it with the ten threads per page argument, when in reality all of the guff they produce is of little interest to anyone but this imediate group.

I am not refering to the really talented (mutated monty, happy toast, JJ, in vino veritas, Butters, TUTT, Dave the Hat, etc) who in my mind make the site worth returning to, just the usual bunch of keyboard heros slinging abuse at anyone without a full knowledge of internet memes.

I really think that the trolling will increase unless you politely ask people to calm down.

cheers

XXXXX
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:09, archived)
# awww, bless
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:10, archived)
# Oooh I'm really talented *beams*
Who wrote it then? C'mon... tell us!

EDIT: And Rob, is this you telling us to calm down?
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:10, archived)
# Wasn't me...
I think you're all cunts. ;o)
(I helped save b3ta! ERG1008 is climbing in yo windows & snatchin yo people up, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# Haha
Cheers :)
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# it appears the sender likes drawings more than photoshops
so that is well constructed argument
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)
# *sobs*
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# never mind
us photoshoppers will just form a little clique and troll everbody else
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)
# I use Photoshop for my vector-style pictures
...
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)
# So they're not real vectors then?

That's a shame. Imagine being able to expand the head of Dave the Hat to the size of the moon without a loss of quality!
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:24, archived)
# I've seen DTH's head
it's perpetually out of focus no matter where you stand!
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:27, archived)
# Yeah well
I could import them into Illustrator and then they'd be "real". You can go back to your DTH imaginings now :)
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:27, archived)
# yay
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
# :o|
I must get photoshop back...!
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)
# does GIMP count?
(pdjpdj, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)
# NO, HAHAHA
get your own clique
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)
# ahahahaha
(I helped save b3ta! AgentMuu hentai coordination, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)
# fuck of knob!
leva the gimps alone!
(I helped save b3ta! Your watch is BACK, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:30, archived)
# no mention of gimp
:)
(I helped save b3ta! wjh31, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)
# Well I didn't write it.
And I'm also not talented.

/isn't news to me
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# You can play guitar
I can't :P
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)
# True.
*rocks*

Right, I'm going home.

Goodnight b3ta!
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)
# Night night sexipance
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)
# tra!
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)
# obviously it was a team effort,
between you, mutated monty, happy toast, JJ, Butters, TUTT and Dave the Hat.
(I helped save b3ta! Damien's Hearse, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)
# don't forget the etcs
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)
# /clams down blog


edit: what an interesting list of 'talented people'. This person is obviously part of some kind of clique rarely seen outside of boarding schools.
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# clam down clam down!
/scouse shellfish blog
(I helped save b3ta! Damien's Hearse, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)
# tell them to come by for the gayshift, we're much friendlier and nicer and shit
(I helped save b3ta! AgentMuu hentai coordination, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# *peers out from bunker doors*
Whassat?
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# hahahaha is that a pisstake by Prod69?


or was it me?
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# hahahaha >.<

wasn't me honest guv!!
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)
# fuck off you spamming cunt! :)
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# Haha!
Let me guess. You e-mailed them back telling them to fuck off?
(I helped save b3ta! Lanc Weekend Trailer Park Supervisor, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# *slings abuse*
(I helped save b3ta! Doctor When May your wife shat and chipper, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# ....
read the fucking faq....
(I helped save b3ta! jimis completed the '90s, now attempting the next level, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)
# Dave the Hat?
Talented?
(I helped save b3ta! wefbhweiufhweiu party, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)
# ^
the whole dth is really lost on me, but I see him as a kind of mascot for you lot from a time before I joined, so I just smile politely and move along
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# ^
(I helped save b3ta! monkdagola but how do you TURN a phrase?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)
# hahaha
carefull he'll set the dogs on you
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)
# so, no explanation then?

*smiles politely and moves along*
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)
# pardon?
you've been here ages
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)
# not as long as some
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
#
i miss amazon girl.
(I helped save b3ta! AgentMuu hentai coordination, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)
# Yes. I picked up on that too.
And when's the last time TUTT posted ought?
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)
# She doesn't have to, she's an attractive young lady
;)
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)
# Oh.
/that/ kind of talent.

Sometimes I wish I was a flirty lass so that I can get listed in lists of talented people.
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)
# I'm working on my moobs right now
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:23, archived)
# It works for me
:P

EDIT: Well I am female, if nothing else.
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)
# Maybe he wrote it?
:P
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)
# :)


oh and I think this:

www.b3ta.com/board/7027240

is a perfectly good example of how nice we can be when someone isn't a prick.
(I helped save b3ta! Damien's Hearse, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)
# NORKS!
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)
# darn
:(
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# Your all gay.
(I helped save b3ta! monkdagola but how do you TURN a phrase?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# Arf!
Rob, did you get sorted out with advice/help regarding your photo project?
/Can't remember exact details but someone pointed me to the thread yesterday.
(I helped save b3ta! Shuya Nanahara Sayonara, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# can i be an etc.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)
# hahahaha
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)
# i always thought cliques were inevitable
the whole board was just a giant one back in the pre 1million post days
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)
# ^ this
isn't that pretty much how these things work, anyway?
(I helped save b3ta! AgentMuu hentai coordination, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)
# yep, and blow jobs between friends were handed out liberally
then batsgirl got busted, 4rthur was created and they all moved away

/history lesson
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:19, archived)
# shhhh, we're not allowed to talk about that!
mind you, 4rthur fell on its arse quite spectacularly, and most of the original b3tans were lost during its boardquake.

I think me, micto, and a few others were the only ones to escape the rubble
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)
# I wish the lovely 100% kitten had survied and Micto crushed to death instead

*sob*
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)
# i think the 200%s survived
but had some serious concussive amnesia, and forgot their logins

edit: and there's nothing wrong with micto (apart from being ginger, left-handed, AND welsh)
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)
# He's not VERY Welsh
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:33, archived)
# he's welsh enough
now, quit arguing, and fetch me my longbow. we've got taffies to hunt...
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:34, archived)
# This is why I gave up flaming ages ago, not worth it :)
The odd -nicely put - word in the ear, or bit of guidance does a lot more than the flaming.

hope they can see past the trolling though :)
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)
# FUCK OFF NOOB
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)
# hahahahaha
*runs to rob*

/personally, I don't see that any regulars contribute to the trolls anyway. The new users are generally ok, and we have some cracking new users.
Considering you have to wait a week before you post - generally speaking - it gives you time to see how the board works and watch how it goes,
as well as a chance to have a glance at the guidance in the FAQ.
I reckon around 8/10 times, most new posters get more guidance and encouragement than slanging in their threads, although admittedly there will be the odd one or two who do go to town on the language.

If they get it wrong, there is usually someone there to help them get it right, and they can move on, the trolls will just post regardless rather than giving it up

still, just an opinion
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
#
www.b3ta.com/board/7027359

*flees* :D
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)
# hahahaha, just 'cos it's your b3taday n' all!
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)
# Making the most of it.. :D
Me and Happytoast (one of the talented) share a b3taday! Isn't that kerrazee?
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)
# sounds like a recipe for a cake orgy
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)
#
*cliques*
(I helped save b3ta! Kris Fucking Kristofferson, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)
# Christ
I come back from my tea and its all gone wobbly

Am I in the clicque?

I thought cliques only existed in the mind of people who happen to think they exist
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
# We knew you'd say something like that
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
# I'm so predictable
Peruvian Flapjacks!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)
# Bolivian Macaroons!
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:31, archived)
# Ecuadorian Eclairs!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:36, archived)
# Speaking as someone with no art skills
and no program other than MS Paint, I find that the answer is: if it ain't pretty, it had damn well better be funny.

Why, just look at this hilarious offering:
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Despite its crude text-on-picturality, it's still throughly kneeslapping, I'm sure you'll agree.

No, your own knee...

And that wasn't my knee...

Or a slap...

But don't stop...
(Gyrate AHHHHHH! Saviour of the Universe!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)
# hahaha!
and posted into an existing thread.
top marks all round.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)
# Ta
*frames marks*

*hangs over mantlepiece*
(Gyrate AHHHHHH! Saviour of the Universe!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)
# pffft
/not talented blog
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:30, archived)
# "the 10 or 12 people who constantly post on the board"
there's only a dozen regular users?

and yes there are a few people who over-react and get abusive at 2k over the limit but there are just as many who tell them not to be over-reacting twats and there are a few brave souls who politely ask them not to post over the limit

and it's "their"
(I helped save b3ta! VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:38, archived)
# ooohhhhh
somebody didn't get that teddy bear for tup birthday :D
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:46, archived)
# awww! rob . . .
you added Dave the Hat to that, didn't you!? Bless you!

(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:48, archived)
# hahahahahaha
perfect
(GoldenFanjita whistle posse blow! horns crew i can't hear you!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 18:54, archived)
# .
This has been going on for around 2 years, not just the last few months. It's like /board has become a massive forum of Nathan Barleys (ugh) since /talk was established.

Rarely can be arsed anymore. I may not post much and what I do is largely shit but when I do I would hope for some kind of input on my efforts (my last two efforts which took a shitload of work were glossed over) instead of everybody simply fawning over TUTT for having nice legs.

/gay
(Wiggles, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 18:56, archived)
# No image?
Hamtoucher!

(Whilst I love Dave to bits, I am amazed that he got slipped in there with the others an the expense of the Duke!)
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Thu 29 Mar 2007, 22:44, archived)