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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
B3ta user: XXXXX

Hey there,
I am very fond of your site and regularly waste valuable time staring at it. In the last few months there has been an increase in trolls and I think this is purely the fault of the regular posters.

The 10 or 12 people who constantly post on the board have formed a clique of the kind rarely seen outside of a girls catholic boarding school.

Any person outside of this circle who posts slightly over the limit is called a cunt and told to fuck off, hardly reasonable.

People with limited photoshop skills are sworn at and threatened for producing the much derided 'text on a picture images'. Again it is hardly fair to these people, when to be honest most of them are just trying to join in with the fun.

When the clique is pulled up on there threatening manner they justify it with the ten threads per page argument, when in reality all of the guff they produce is of little interest to anyone but this imediate group.

I am not refering to the really talented (mutated monty, happy toast, JJ, in vino veritas, Butters, TUTT, Dave the Hat, etc) who in my mind make the site worth returning to, just the usual bunch of keyboard heros slinging abuse at anyone without a full knowledge of internet memes.

I really think that the trolling will increase unless you politely ask people to calm down.

cheers

XXXXX
( rob twitter.com/robmanuel is following you, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:09, archived)

awww, bless

( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:10, archived)

Oooh I'm really talented *beams*
Who wrote it then? C'mon... tell us!

EDIT: And Rob, is this you telling us to calm down?
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:10, archived)

Wasn't me...
I think you're all cunts. ;o)
( ERG1008 is climbing in yo windows & snatchin yo people up, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

Haha
Cheers :)
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

it appears the sender likes drawings more than photoshops
so that is well constructed argument
( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)

*sobs*

( bilbobaileybarneybobs @bilbobarneybobs- tweet tweet!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

never mind
us photoshoppers will just form a little clique and troll everbody else
( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)

I use Photoshop for my vector-style pictures
...
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)

So they're not real vectors then?

That's a shame. Imagine being able to expand the head of Dave the Hat to the size of the moon without a loss of quality!
( wheelybird grep | grep | grep, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:24, archived)

I've seen DTH's head
it's perpetually out of focus no matter where you stand!
( Prof UnderCover NOT DRUNK ENOUGH, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:27, archived)

Yeah well
I could import them into Illustrator and then they'd be "real". You can go back to your DTH imaginings now :)
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:27, archived)

yay

( bilbobaileybarneybobs @bilbobarneybobs- tweet tweet!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

:o|
I must get photoshop back...!
( Prof UnderCover NOT DRUNK ENOUGH, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)

does GIMP count?

(pdjpdj, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)

NO, HAHAHA
get your own clique
( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)

ahahahaha

( Agent Muu wants to kick shit at a pig, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)

fuck of knob!
leva the gimps alone!
( Your watch is quickly ticking towards 5K, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:30, archived)

no mention of gimp
:)
( wjh31, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)

Well I didn't write it.
And I'm also not talented.

/isn't news to me
( Professor Kenny Martin is "Skullfunkerry" to some, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

You can play guitar
I can't :P
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)

True.
*rocks*

Right, I'm going home.

Goodnight b3ta!
( Professor Kenny Martin is "Skullfunkerry" to some, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)

Night night sexipance

( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)

tra!

( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:18, archived)

obviously it was a team effort,
between you, mutated monty, happy toast, JJ, Butters, TUTT and Dave the Hat.
( Count Vanderhoff knulla mora di på, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)

don't forget the etcs

( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)

/clams down blog


edit: what an interesting list of 'talented people'. This person is obviously part of some kind of clique rarely seen outside of boarding schools.
( wheelybird grep | grep | grep, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

clam down clam down!
/scouse shellfish blog
( Count Vanderhoff knulla mora di på, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)

tell them to come by for the gayshift, we're much friendlier and nicer and shit

( Agent Muu wants to kick shit at a pig, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

*peers out from bunker doors*
Whassat?
( Professor Kenny Martin is "Skullfunkerry" to some, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

hahahaha is that a pisstake by Prod69?


or was it me?
( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

hahahaha >.<

wasn't me honest guv!!
( prodigy69 's World of Stuff, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)

fuck off you spamming cunt! :)

( prodigy69 's World of Stuff, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

Haha!
Let me guess. You e-mailed them back telling them to fuck off?
( Lanc Weekend Trailer Park Supervisor, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

*slings abuse*

( Doctor When May your wife shat and chipper, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

....
read the fucking faq....
( jimis completed the '90s, now attempting the next level, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:11, archived)

Dave the Hat?
Talented?
( 4dam party, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)

^
the whole dth is really lost on me, but I see him as a kind of mascot for you lot from a time before I joined, so I just smile politely and move along
( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

^

( monkdagola but how do you TURN a phrase?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)

hahaha
carefull he'll set the dogs on you
( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)

so, no explanation then?

*smiles politely and moves along*
( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)

pardon?
you've been here ages
( bilbobaileybarneybobs @bilbobarneybobs- tweet tweet!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)

not as long as some

( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

i miss amazon girl.
( Agent Muu wants to kick shit at a pig, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)

Yes. I picked up on that too.
And when's the last time TUTT posted ought?
( wheelybird grep | grep | grep, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:16, archived)

She doesn't have to, she's an attractive young lady
;)
( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)

Oh.
/that/ kind of talent.

Sometimes I wish I was a flirty lass so that I can get listed in lists of talented people.
( wheelybird grep | grep | grep, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)

I'm working on my moobs right now

( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:23, archived)

It works for me
:P

EDIT: Well I am female, if nothing else.
( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)

Maybe he wrote it?
:P
( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)

:)


oh and I think this:

www.b3ta.com/board/7027240

is a perfectly good example of how nice we can be when someone isn't a prick.
( Count Vanderhoff knulla mora di på, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:12, archived)

NORKS!

( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)

darn
:(
( bilbobaileybarneybobs @bilbobarneybobs- tweet tweet!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

Your all gay.

( monkdagola but how do you TURN a phrase?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

Arf!
Rob, did you get sorted out with advice/help regarding your photo project?
/Can't remember exact details but someone pointed me to the thread yesterday.
( Shuya Nanahara Sayonara, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

can i be an etc.

( god save the queen http://www.hatfield-anti-incineration.co.uk/, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:13, archived)

hahahaha

( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:14, archived)

i always thought cliques were inevitable
the whole board was just a giant one back in the pre 1million post days
( lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:15, archived)

^ this
isn't that pretty much how these things work, anyway?
( Agent Muu wants to kick shit at a pig, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)

yep, and blow jobs between friends were handed out liberally
then batsgirl got busted, 4rthur was created and they all moved away

/history lesson
( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:19, archived)

shhhh, we're not allowed to talk about that!
mind you, 4rthur fell on its arse quite spectacularly, and most of the original b3tans were lost during its boardquake.

I think me, micto, and a few others were the only ones to escape the rubble
( lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:22, archived)

I wish the lovely 100% kitten had survied and Micto crushed to death instead

*sob*
( M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)

i think the 200%s survived
but had some serious concussive amnesia, and forgot their logins

edit: and there's nothing wrong with micto (apart from being ginger, left-handed, AND welsh)
( lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)

He's not VERY Welsh

( in vino veritas, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:33, archived)

he's welsh enough
now, quit arguing, and fetch me my longbow. we've got taffies to hunt...
( lo, the Greebo Warrior - Est. 2002, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:34, archived)

This is why I gave up flaming ages ago, not worth it :)
The odd -nicely put - word in the ear, or bit of guidance does a lot more than the flaming.

hope they can see past the trolling though :)
( The Great Architect, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:17, archived)

FUCK OFF NOOB

( mongychops handbrake?, that's not how i roll, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)

hahahahaha
*runs to rob*

/personally, I don't see that any regulars contribute to the trolls anyway. The new users are generally ok, and we have some cracking new users.
Considering you have to wait a week before you post - generally speaking - it gives you time to see how the board works and watch how it goes,
as well as a chance to have a glance at the guidance in the FAQ.
I reckon around 8/10 times, most new posters get more guidance and encouragement than slanging in their threads, although admittedly there will be the odd one or two who do go to town on the language.

If they get it wrong, there is usually someone there to help them get it right, and they can move on, the trolls will just post regardless rather than giving it up

still, just an opinion
( The Great Architect, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

www.b3ta.com/board/7027359

*flees* :D
( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)

hahahaha, just 'cos it's your b3taday n' all!

( The Great Architect, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)

Making the most of it.. :D
Me and Happytoast (one of the talented) share a b3taday! Isn't that kerrazee?
( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:28, archived)

sounds like a recipe for a cake orgy

( The Great Architect, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)

*cliques*
( Kris Fucking Kristofferson, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:20, archived)

Christ
I come back from my tea and its all gone wobbly

Am I in the clicque?

I thought cliques only existed in the mind of people who happen to think they exist
( Gruffi Savalas Ego amare equos. Optimum animalia., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

We knew you'd say something like that

( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

I'm so predictable
Peruvian Flapjacks!
( Gruffi Savalas Ego amare equos. Optimum animalia., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:26, archived)

Bolivian Macaroons!

( Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:31, archived)

Ecuadorian Eclairs!

( Gruffi Savalas Ego amare equos. Optimum animalia., Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:36, archived)

Speaking as someone with no art skills
and no program other than MS Paint, I find that the answer is: if it ain't pretty, it had damn well better be funny.

Why, just look at this hilarious offering:

Despite its crude text-on-picturality, it's still throughly kneeslapping, I'm sure you'll agree.

No, your own knee...

And that wasn't my knee...

Or a slap...

But don't stop...
(Gyrate is watching you masturbate, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:21, archived)

hahaha!
and posted into an existing thread.
top marks all round.
( god save the queen http://www.hatfield-anti-incineration.co.uk/, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:25, archived)

Ta
*frames marks*

*hangs over mantlepiece*
(Gyrate is watching you masturbate, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:29, archived)

pffft
/not talented blog
( Emvee Stark The King in the North London, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:30, archived)

"the 10 or 12 people who constantly post on the board"
there's only a dozen regular users?

and yes there are a few people who over-react and get abusive at 2k over the limit but there are just as many who tell them not to be over-reacting twats and there are a few brave souls who politely ask them not to post over the limit

and it's "their"
( VampireMonkeyOnSpeed unexpected arse in the bagging area, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:38, archived)

ooohhhhh
somebody didn't get that teddy bear for tup birthday :D
( Jeccius 3DS friend code 4897-6337-7123, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:46, archived)

awww! rob . . .
you added Dave the Hat to that, didn't you!? Bless you!


( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - Jaffa cakes only 500 calories per box - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 17:48, archived)

hahahahahaha
perfect
(GoldenFanjita whistle posse blow! horns crew i can't hear you!, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 18:54, archived)

.
This has been going on for around 2 years, not just the last few months. It's like /board has become a massive forum of Nathan Barleys (ugh) since /talk was established.

Rarely can be arsed anymore. I may not post much and what I do is largely shit but when I do I would hope for some kind of input on my efforts (my last two efforts which took a shitload of work were glossed over) instead of everybody simply fawning over TUTT for having nice legs.

/gay
(Wiggles, Wed 28 Mar 2007, 18:56, archived)

No image?
Hamtoucher!

(Whilst I love Dave to bits, I am amazed that he got slipped in there with the others an the expense of the Duke!)
( Pedantichrist twitter.com/LordManley, Thu 29 Mar 2007, 22:44, archived)