Ignorance is when people audition for the X-Factor
and have awful, terrible, voices and no talent and rubbish appearance, and then, upon being told by one of the most successful pop music promoters in the world (I didn't say I liked him) that they aren't good enough, throw a strop and insist that they'll have a Number 1 album in the next year without his assistance. Because they derive confidence from their equally untalented friends and family telling them how good they are.

Example= www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrNbLBS1D2Q

Or does that come under the classification of 'delusional'?

That ties in with this article nicely.

news.yahoo.com/incompetent-people-too-ignorant-know-175402902.html

I like the line where it also says ' Similarly, unfunny people don't have a good enough sense of humor to tell.'.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Wed 5 Sep 2012, 19:04, 10 replies)

Up to a point, Lord Copper.
X Factor and BGT are only incidentally talent shows. The top three have already been picked before the first episode, and they'll be the only ones with commercial prospects.

Everyone else is a freak, windowlicker or bad loser. If they weren't they wouldn't be on.

A decent voice doesn't pull in ratings. Morbidly obese girls screeching off-key, shit rappers issuing death threats, desperate sunbed casualties having their hopes crushed: the sadism theatre couldn't work otherwise. If week after week goodlooking tuneful kids, whose talents are on nearly level pegging get binned the audience would soon sicken.

Give them someone they can despise, and they'll come back for more.
(all my scars face forward possesses 2.5% of a hyperalloy combat chassis, Wed 5 Sep 2012, 20:14, closed)

Yes and no
I've known quite a few performing-arty types that have, or have known people that have, tried out for this kind of thing.

There are several pre-audition screening rounds, that you get through by being either good or awful. The awful ones get told by several separate groups of producers that they are brilliant, the best they've EVER seen, and will be a star. They then walk out full of undue confidence, thinking that they will be brilliant, are terrible instead, make a tit of themselves in front of thousands of people, get ritually humiliated, and then have a nervous breakdown on tv once they realise that they're just a sad fantasist like the nasty thoughts tell them.

They still probably deserve it, mind.
(cs1ca, Wed 5 Sep 2012, 20:26, closed)

this is interesting background information of which I was not aware....ta for the info :-)
but people still put themselves forward for audition off the back of friends and family saying 'yer right good, you are, even better than that Pic'n'Mix'...
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Wed 5 Sep 2012, 20:40, closed)

As has been mentioned above, I have it on very good (insider) information that these shows are fixed.
However, "Ablisa"... fuck. ing. hell O_o

I hope they never breed :/
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Wed 5 Sep 2012, 20:57, closed)

Also, regarding the second link... no shit, Sherlock?
Working as a trainer, I've always said the worst people are the ones who don't know how stupid/crap/unskilled/whatever they are; the ones who come in and say "Ooh, I know nothing about computers" are generally a joy to teach; the ones who think they know everything are 100% pain in the arse...

EDIT: that comes across like I'm having a go at you, RWH... not at all, more at the scientists that took a decade to discover what most of us in the real world already know :)
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Wed 5 Sep 2012, 20:58, closed)

Well a theory is fine and a stereotype is something known by everyone
these people apparently spent time compiling evidence and documenting it and incidentally got paid for the last 10 years for documenting and compiling what we mostly already know :-)
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Wed 5 Sep 2012, 21:28, closed)

..also,
'Never let the truth get it the way of entertainment' :-) Yesss, I'm not a massive football fan but many's the time I've seen summat on 'Light Entertainment TV' and wanted to jump to my feet and shout 'REF! THAT'S BOLLOCKS!'. You have to write to Points Of View instead....
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Wed 5 Sep 2012, 21:35, closed)

I'm betting they already have.
Nvm.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Thu 6 Sep 2012, 9:58, closed)

Some of the greatest laughs of my life have been from that show

( Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 6 Sep 2012, 0:51, closed)

Xfactor, Australia's Got Talent et. al.
Channel gets changed quick-smart in our house cause if I'm wearing my work-boots (steel capped), that's a fucking expensive TV!
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Thu 6 Sep 2012, 10:01, closed)