As a direct question to the Women out there...
Is it true you get taken aside whilst at school and taught how to conduct (i.e. win) arguments?

This is the only bit of my relationship which really pisses me off. My wife is able to recall every minor misdemeanour i've done for the past 20 years, along with every off-the-cuff remark which she doesn't agree with - and can integrate them into her argument at any moment.

Should i ever try the same, i'm told i'm making it up and "don't you remember..."?

It really cunts the fuck in my head.
( Another_tragic_case wished he hadn't eaten all the cake, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 7:46, 20 replies)

If you value winning more than your relationship...
...keep a notebook or dictaphone on your person forthose special argument situations. I was stuck in a crappy one once and out of sheer spite I did this, helped me with a classic argument later on when she insisted that I never apologise and I helpfully pointed out that the last time had been two days prior at about 7:15 !!! Takes willpower and an acceptance that your other half WILL leave. God, I sound like a mental now.....aaaarrrrggggghhhh!
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 26 Oct 2010, 8:04, closed)

Yeah I
Think all women have this ability. I never do it to her because in the rare case it's me forgiving her, I accept that it's water under the bridge....I wonder if women use this trick when they are arguing with each other and if they do, what their defence response would be. I would love to know this for future reasons.
(bROKEN aRROW PUA HVI Master, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 9:28, closed)

There are three ways to conduct an argument with a woman
...unfortunately, none of them work.

And, if at any time you present what objectively would be a winning point, you will find that you have unwittingly entered a whole new and completely different argument.

Sometimes the goalposts move so fast that they leave skidmarks. I once heard a woman change sides in the argument, a complete 180-degree flip, within the space of a single sentence -- without changing the intensity of her conviction that she was, of course, right.

(Unusually, in that case, I had witnesses who confirmed it when I pointed it out to her. A deliciously rare and precious victory!)
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 9:34, closed)

There are no ways to win an argument with a woman
even if you're completely in the right, she will paint the situation as you being cruel to her.
( Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 11:21, closed)

or start crying

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 11:27, closed)

You've got to use all her tactics or none at all...
When she recalls these things, tell her you don't remember and she must be making it up. You never know, she might even laugh.
(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 9:40, closed)

No
It doesn't work like that.
We are never wrong. You miss remember, we never do.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 26 Oct 2010, 12:29, closed)

this

(Nanny Pat vote for me, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 12:50, closed)

No logic
You assume that women follow the same logic in conversations, or any logic at all, as us. But they don't.
(Robotnik, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 10:59, closed)

^
stop expecting to find rationality where there is none

Your first mistake was actually listening to what she said - as soon as these arguments begin, go to your happy place. Mine is the Shaftsbury Arms, down the road.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 11:10, closed)

Pearoast comment
My missus did once berate me mid argument for "using logic" in an argument. She felt it was a bit unfair.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 26 Oct 2010, 14:44, closed)

I one heard a lady comic remark:
Women never forget, that is the point of a woman.


I believe that sooner a chap realises that there is no way to win an argument with a woman then the easier his life will be.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 26 Oct 2010, 12:26, closed)

we do not do these things because they are easy ...
we do them because they are hard.
(haberman is singing in the changes, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 12:44, closed)

We learn from our mothers.
It's hard not to bring past things up but that's devious, unrelated and I'm sure there's a proverb or something about it somewhere...
( vix0r was not Matthew on, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 14:36, closed)

But
If there are two girls using the same techniques on each other, how does that work?.....I guess the one that has the most shit on the other one wins but this game could go on for hours, like two chess masters playing each other...
(bROKEN aRROW PUA HVI Master, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 15:50, closed)

.
I've seen arguments between women. Neither wins, they just kind of flounce off. One of them will say "well you're an idiot, you might as well just fuck off then" and the other one will say "whatever! idiot!" and then they'll walk away or, if they are at school, they might have a physical fight.
This doesn't happen on "loose women" though. On that one they just start talking about something else.
( browser still relating boring anecdotes into a void on, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 16:43, closed)

hmmmm
intriguing..
(bROKEN aRROW PUA HVI Master, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 17:32, closed)

If you can't win an argument, the next best thing is to derail it.
Butting in when the other person's in the middle of a sentence and talking with great enthusiasm about something completely irrelevant works well.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 26 Oct 2010, 19:26, closed)

"What kind of animal is it that never forgets?"

( idonthaveafunnynickname Drink-Aware? Sure. I'm aware I want another drink., Tue 26 Oct 2010, 23:38, closed)

An Elephemale

(bROKEN aRROW PUA HVI Master, Wed 27 Oct 2010, 17:31, closed)