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# IMPORTANT COPYRIGHT
If you are an artist post art on this board please make sure you copyright,

I've just found Nickelodeon have stolen my pictures and are using them as there own without my permission and I am PISSED OFF.

I'm the luckiest bugger alive, just happened to be walking past (nick studios next to my work) and saw a bird painting it. I really believe in fate now, didn't before...

SO i'm putting up a copyright notice and I'm going to talk to them later on about it.

So yes, hear is a warning from someone who just lost out on alot of money from not putting on a little c in his work.

EDIT: PROOF



Original



Cheers
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:23, archived)
# How so?
Where? Link?

That sucks
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:23, archived)
# I work by Nickelodeon
And saw some bird painting one of my David Hasselhoffs talking about B3ta and it being a good source.

I went up to a girl and asked her where she got that from and she just started deniying that the work was mine...

VERY VERY random. I think it's a sign.
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:27, archived)
# Dirty bastards!
I hope they rot
(I helped save b3ta! Beastie is doing science with his arse, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:29, archived)
# good source
the money they`re earning they should be making their own stuff.. cunts

better knock up some kind of photoshoppy copyright tag thing

I hope you kick ass, I really do, cos your stuff is class

- which means that some cunt from "Nick" is currently on the phone to a lawyer saying "how can we prove that we made this first even though we didn`t?"
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:33, archived)
# I'm not sure I understand the context
and all this "they" business might be over the top. All we know so far is "some bird was painting it". Don't know what she was painting it on, or what for, and it was presumably her own idea to use it.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:36, archived)
# just going on what the Donkey man says
we`ve never been a bunch to wait for all the facts ;)

if it`s all true, we should all have a banner we paste on every post slamming "Nick" and it`s dubious business practices

- a little banner, mind you, nothing crazy.. in orange and white

maybe Stelios will sue b3ta ..

god it`s all so complex
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:39, archived)
# I get the impression that it's not Nickelodeon that has dubious business practices
But "some bird" who suffered a momentary lapse of judgement due to lack of hummus.
edit: aw, look, she's made him fitter and given him a medallion. Fair play I say.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:42, archived)
# aye you`re right
you`re a very thinkery person.. could just be her that`s a thieving cunt
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:44, archived)
# Aw, thank you.
*smarms*
edit: pfft, Stelios
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:45, archived)
# hmm. we might blatantly nick other people's work and modify it slightly
But we're not doing it for commercial gain; it's fairly reasonable use, and the mods remove stuff the copyright holders do complain about-- I remember a Ladybird book FP being removed 'cos the publishers e-mailed Rob.

But what nickelodeon have done... that is for commercial gain. And it's shit of them.
(I helped save b3ta! drunkenoaf, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:45, archived)
# You think it's a sign of something?
Or she was painting it on a sign?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:35, archived)
# haha
I don't think we'd get very far. We tend not to use our own source pics round here...
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:24, archived)
# Have you contacted them?
We'll vouch for you!
(I helped save b3ta! Beastie is doing science with his arse, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:24, archived)
# Shiiiiiiit...
Bastard orange kiddy TV making thieving twunts. Good luck man!
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:24, archived)
# And here I thought everything on the web was free.
Sucks man. Kick their ass!
(I helped save b3ta! Syncubus Yarr! Ye'll be walking Planck's Constant! [GMT-5], Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:24, archived)
# let's see the piccy,
and do you have a link to the Nickelodeon use of it?
(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:25, archived)
# bloody hell man that`s not right at all - I hope you get what you deserve, be it a big pay off or royalties :(
that`s just not on

suppose we should all copyright anything we totally make ourselves

(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:25, archived)
# But it is copyrighted
even if you've not put a circled c on it.

www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
(I helped save b3ta! Curis, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:27, archived)
# but you can`t just colour in somebody`s eye on a pic you nabbed off google and copyright it
my advice

1. never believe ANYTHING you find on a web site that is
a) not written by the official source
a.1) written in plain English
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:30, archived)
# shit!
[stops downloading special eye-colouring software]
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:33, archived)
# that's a shame, your stuff is very good
and you deserve credit for it

shall we storm the nickeldon offices (just off oxford street)
(I helped save b3ta! Mr Gimpson Wolfguts, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# I doubt this.
Which pictures?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# I do
I just bloody saw it. I'm going to take a pic with my phone
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:28, archived)
# With your phone?
Hi-digga-dum.
(JPaddy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:51, archived)
# i was under the impression stuff is copywrite without that
(I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# I think
you're right.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:28, archived)
# Yep
he is.
(I helped save b3ta! Curis, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:29, archived)
# Seems so
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works
"Copyright under the Berne Convention is automatic: no registration is required, nor is the inclusion of a copyright notice."
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:30, archived)
# You automatically own the copyright
of anything you create.

It's all a matter of being able to prove it was yours in the first place. Unfortunately it all probably comes down to who has the most money to spend on lawyers.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:30, archived)
# yeah
but if you've got the source file or images and they don't, I think you've got a strong case
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:38, archived)
# ouch unlucky
although i hope they stole chinstrap so they get millions of law suites for scarring children
(Calmallama Is keeping this short and sweet, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# lol

Trust me, Chinstrap ALL next week will be about 'Nick'...
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:52, archived)
# Try here for advice
www.copyrightprotection.com

Only joking. It's been going on for ages. David Sullivan is the main protagonist!
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# That's harsh
...but as far as I'm aware you can establish copyright after the event, if you can prove you made it first. Good luck!
(I helped save b3ta! tipassoi, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:28, archived)
# and the b3ta frontpage archive never lies
.. if needed to show prior art and stuffs
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:31, archived)
# Plus Donkey Gums' got a pretty distinctive "style"
I'd imagine it's easier to prove you drew a picture than that you shopped one, plus you don't have the problem of having used someone elses source
(I helped save b3ta! tipassoi, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:33, archived)
# suppose they can change theirs a little bit and say "oh no it`s a totally different thing.. honest guv..."
bastarding little Fagins
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:36, archived)
# You own the copyright in your work
regardless of whether you put a little c on it or not.

That's all quite shitty.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:29, archived)
# surely seeing as you created it you already hold the right to the image.

i seem to remember one of SE's pictures being used on internutter and him giving then a ticking off.

if they are using material created by you without seeking proper permission then they should find themselves in a liable position.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:30, archived)
# really?
They've just gone inside as they were painting it outside...
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:31, archived)
# was it your artwork

or was it done with various source pics?

what was the original picture?
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:33, archived)
# hahaha source pics!
this is Donkey Gums.. legend of the paint mash
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:35, archived)
# hello lawyers.

i've a case for you.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:36, archived)
# I'm doing it out
Of principle:

If they think they can get away with it then what to stop them from stealing of you your work?!?!?

I'm doing this for B3ta and our hardwork that deserves beer tokens.
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:58, archived)
# maybe it's less of a corporate or
organizational action. Maybe someone said "we need a mural" and the girl that you mentioned found (stole) that, without saying that she didn't make it.
(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:33, archived)
# Yeah we need photographs!
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:34, archived)
# GOT SOME
Just taken some with my phone...hold on
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:34, archived)
# ...
PROOF ABOVE IN FIRST EDITED POST
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:39, archived)
# ?
What's it got to do with Nickelodeon?
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:40, archived)
# I`d say
proof indeed - it`s fucking identical, except without your charm and "cheers" :(
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:40, archived)
# yep
that's your alright.

i suggest going and having a word.

you have the original files still i take it?

a friendly word and an out of court settlement should do it.

what's the artwork on the outside of the building for?
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:42, archived)
# Wait 'til they actually use it for something big.
Then hit them for more money.
(JPaddy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:47, archived)
# some girls
were just painting them as I was walking ready to go into my office down the road. NO JOKE.

fate is on my side, I don't think you can get luckier than that. I've got a picture of the girl and the studio entrance too.
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:50, archived)
# I think that's the most remarkable coincidence ever.
Wowweee.
(I helped save b3ta! Curis, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:52, archived)
# "Them"?
What are there other paintings?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:53, archived)
# nah
about 10 of the hoffs.
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:56, archived)
# I'm not so sure if it's worth it.
(kaibosh, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:45, archived)
# I work with Ad agencies a lot ....
and B3ta is well known as a good source of material.

As soon as you create anything it is already copyright material owned by you, however, be aware that if you wanted to get shitty with them, they could question all sorts of things, i.e. did YOU have all relevant permissions.
Also, If you took 'em to court, you have to be able to prove how much out of pocket you are, which believe me is bastard difficult.

Why not nip over and see the boss at their office, and suggest firing the bint who nicked your work and sub-contracting out to you:)
(I helped save b3ta! Fretskimmer I'm a pretty fuckin' long way from allright..., Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:40, archived)
# well bollocks to it then

but your second idea is brilliant - go on Donkey Gums - turn the tables and get them to PAY YOU!
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:43, archived)
# idea
that's exactly what i'm going to do...lucky man me, i think fate is on my side, I mean, what are the chances that i'd walk past as they were doing that?!?!?!
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:49, archived)
# On the other hand...
you could keep yourself awake tonight wondering how many times they ripped your stuff off and you didn't walk past..........




(I helped save b3ta! Fretskimmer I'm a pretty fuckin' long way from allright..., Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:52, archived)
# *pop*
*brain dead*

(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:55, archived)
# Yes, this.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:54, archived)
# that sucks
kick their ass
(by the way what is nickelodeon?)
edit/
them miserable uninventive cunts!
(I helped save b3ta! olivier8 (euroloon), Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:38, archived)
# A cable TV channel which shows kids cartoons.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:40, archived)
# a childrens TV channel

they do cartoons like rug rats, etc...
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:40, archived)
# look in first post
it's there now, had to fight a girl for it.

Her nips will be well sore tomorrow...
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:41, archived)
# she could
have at least copied it properly.

/wonders what exactly DG will be doing with said bints nipples to get them all chafed and sore.
(haberman is singing in the changes, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:46, archived)
# I KNOW!
makes my work look pants!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:47, archived)
# No two ways about it, thats been wazzed off you
go sick 'em
(Gen Graie Wherever you are, whatever you do,LOOK AROUND YOU, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:43, archived)
# yup,

I'm not going to say anything, record Nickelodeon tomorrow, and if I see them I'm going into the offices and asking for £500 - £1000 for unauthorised use my orinial material.
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:46, archived)
# ah
I shall remember this tactic when they open the next branch of the Tate Gallery...



rp 3737737, oh those lovely 3's and 7's...
(haberman is singing in the changes, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:54, archived)
# now that i see the evidence
i wonder how close to the original it has to be to breach copyright...
(I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:46, archived)
# I think
Nickelodeon's version is better

/runs

nah, having your work stolen is complete poo
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:47, archived)
# I can see it,
But can you explain what it's meant for? There's no sense of scale
(I helped save b3ta! Curis, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:49, archived)
# was about
3 foot high, for kids to hold and stick chest hair too supposidly...
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:51, archived)
# Heh,
When you show them the original on your PC make sure you hide all the Nikleodeon shows you've downloaded!
(Papagato RackSpanner, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:56, archived)
# I fucking hate Nickelodeon for
fucking over John Kricfalusi. This makes them even worse.
(Hairy Midget, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:59, archived)
# fuck Nickelodeon
don't let Disney see.

I wonder if b3ta could be configured to simply block any HTTP requests from IPs owned by Disney offices?
(spazdor, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 18:32, archived)
# location of copyright notice.
put up the copyright notice in spraypaint next to the one on the nickelodeon studio.
(Rastus P Watermelon, Mon 26 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# how about
board posting date of the original picture is a good source of pre-dating your picture to the nick picture ;)
(JadeFalcon, Mon 26 Sep 2005, 17:28, archived)