IDF are doing a great job.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:24, Reply)
The BBC are actively seeking a war and rubbing their hands at the prospect of it, it's getting more like The Day To Day.
"WAR!!! LIVE UPDATES!!!!"
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:45, Reply)
Subtly forgetting that the reason why the IDF are blowing the shit out of terrorist organisations is because these terrorists fired hundreds of missiles into Israel. Now those spastics in Egypt have pledged to support the terrorists.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:55, Reply)
Why does everyone think you have to have an opinion about the Israeli-Palestinian problem, that you have to take sides.
The same people hardly think twice about the rights and wrongs of Burma.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 15:23, Reply)
Killing the guy with whom you are negotiating a lasting truce isn't that 'great'.
Unless this all some kind of marketing campaign for Black Ops 2?
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:00, Reply)
The 'great job' refers to the destruction of terrorists, terrorist facilities and associated infrastructure. Great job IDF!
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& babies.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:14, Reply)
or maybe when israel continued to build illegal settlements on land they didn't own.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:20, Reply)
Especially when you BOTH have the same imaginary friend but you just can't agree on who wrote the best story about him/her/it.
Gotta love religion!
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:03, Reply)
it's all about religon and nothing else whatsoever. it really is that black and white. religon bad, smug liberal atheists good, mmmkay?
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:34, Reply)
add to that the collective guilt-tripping of the Jewish side, which gave them 'their' homeland, together with the massive financial support from the USA. Then take the Muslim/Arab side. The support from other Arab/Muslim states and the hatred of anything Jewis will perpetuate this conflict well beyond our lifetimes.
They each claim a divine right to the land.
There are no divine rights.
There are no gods.
There are only stupid, pig - headed gullible weak people that need an imaginary friend in the dark. If they only killed each other I'd be indifferent, but they don't. Their stupid spat has spilled over into my world. I really don't care who 'wins'. We ALL lose.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:02, Reply)
The Ottoman Empire couldn't deal with it, not the British; they simply hate each other in their squabble over a tract of land no larger than Wales, one side conveniently supported by some on the manor in which they broadly share a religious faith, and the other for the same hideously stupid reason.
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They're Gods. With centuries of hatred, war, sacrifice and torture to make them real. It's a profoundly complex struggle and your facile internet age wisdom doesn't make it any easier to understand or solve.
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i can see you've done your research.
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if there were no religions.
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As to the 'smug, liberal atheists' thing - I have never been called a liberal before! As an atheist I find it hard to understand religious fanaticism (or religion per se) can't see how that makes me or my views smug but there y'go.
I agree. it has been going on for ages, I agree the real reasons are lost in the tangle of religious hatred and mutual distrust but the irony is, both Judaism and Islam are both Abrahamic faiths, with the same god.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:35, Reply)
distilling this whole middle east shitstorm down to 'religon' is beyond facile, it's off the fucking scale fatuous. and as for your 'i just don't get it, they're both Abrahimic faiths' line, that's plain ignorant. know your enemy.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:43, Reply)
The power struggles over Israel/Palestine are historically significant, when the area had what lots of people wanted, everyone wanted to control the area. Now there's nothing there worth killing for except the history.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:52, Reply)
elaborate on this and enlighten me, Israel and Palestine have never been significant oil producers so i don't know what you're talking about.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:59, Reply)
The place is littered with 'holy' places precious to all of them, that ultimately are but motes of gravel and dust
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 13:18, Reply)
that and motes of gravel and dust. mote is a new word for me. i thank you, although i think you used it tautologically.
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I was trying to sound deep and thoughtful
Some fat, bald bloke said this long ago. Carl Sagan said more or less the same thing more recently in a Pale Blue Dot:
"Buddha said: "I consider the positions of kings and rulers as that of dust motes. I observe treasures of gold and gems as so many bricks and pebbles. I look upon the finest silken robes as tattered rags. I see myriad worlds of the universe as small seeds of fruit, and the greatest lake in India as a drop of oil on my foot. I perceive the teachings of the world to be the illusion of magicians. I discern the highest conception of emancipation as a golden brocade in a dream, and view the holy path of the illuminated ones as flowers appearing in one's eyes. I see meditation as a pillar of a mountain, Nirvana as a nightmare of daytime. I look upon the judgment of right and wrong as the serpentine dance of a dragon, and the rise and fall of beliefs as but traces left by the four seasons."
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 13:59, Reply)
but i think the man represents Israel and the woman Palestine, or it could be the other way around, not quite as highbrow as your reference but hey ho.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVBYwntkiFA
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 14:05, Reply)
Yes, I remember that; spoken with such sincerity as well
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 14:13, Reply)
I would have angrily demanded my alms back, or something
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 15:35, Reply)
I think that blowing up these bearded bastards is a win.
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Death to the bus infidels!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20375395
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:31, Reply)
If the prophet mohammed was still here he would cry - all those kiddies he could have diddled.
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Fuck Israel
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:43, Reply)
military strikes on military targets, an absolute outrage
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:51, Reply)
I mean, if I lobbed hundreds of missiles into your garden I would expect you to apologise to me - not kick my fucking teeth in.
What is this world coming to?
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:59, Reply)
How dare Israel didn't simply bang it's fist on it's desk in disgust, or tut, or something
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:20, Reply)
In the last gaza war, they killed more than ten times as many Palestinian civilians as Hamas killed Israeli. Proportional ain't the right word. Before you start, I'm aware that Hamas uses its own people as meat shields. But I'm also aware that the IDF seem to have few compunctions about blowing up the meat shields. Whenever you justify massive collateral damage with "lesser of two evils" arguments, you start sounding a lot like Hamas.
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For that cover of "fog on the Tyne" he did
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Both sides claim the moral high ground, all the while having no qualms about killing innocent people in pursuit of their causes. Even if the IDF makes no deliberate effort to murder civilians (unlike Hamas), the notion of a few dead Arabs hasn't stopped Israeli airstrikes. Israelis take no responsibility for civilians, and blame all civilian deaths on Hamas, due to Hamas' strategy of hiding behind civilians. But you can't shift responsibility when you're the one pulling the trigger.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:51, Reply)
The fact our descendants will be typing exactly these same words in a few decades just goes to show the entire stupid futility of this bullshit
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:57, Reply)
I can see voice-recognition taking over within the next 10-20 years.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 15:57, Reply)
'barbaric' considering all the shit they've done in the past, suicide bombings and such.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:55, Reply)
Mind, Blair's pro-israeli stance on radio four the other day was shameless.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:00, Reply)
Al Jazhera are more unbiased ( did i spell that right cos i cant be arsed to check)
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:56, Reply)
put the 'man bites dog' story back to page seven, exclusive revelation on B3ta: Blair Shameless Shocker, read all about Tony's troubled relationship with honesty and the truth plus he talks exclusively to B3ta about his God complex.
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 12:21, Reply)
Well done though.
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looking at a war between 2 sets of cunts, and arguing that its all 1 cunts fault
IDF = cunts
Hamas = cunts
cunts are killing innocents on both sides.
there you go, a post without bias...
CUNTS!
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:45, Reply)
I suggest there's a third set, those who miles away from it could use their perspective towards a solution rather than taking sides...
(, Sat 17 Nov 2012, 14:49, Reply)