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I dun published a kindle book
You can even borrow it. But buying it would be nicer.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008C8OZXA
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 14:56, 154 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
You can even borrow it. But buying it would be nicer.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008C8OZXA
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 14:56, 154 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
You're in china, and you're called chinaman
i'm not holding out much hope for this book of yours
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 14:59, Reply)
i'm not holding out much hope for this book of yours
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 14:59, Reply)
It's free. So that's a plus.
You haven't posted a big fuck off picture of it and then been a wanker when asked politely to remove it. So that's a plus.
It has a nice picture on it. So that's a plus.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:02, Reply)
You haven't posted a big fuck off picture of it and then been a wanker when asked politely to remove it. So that's a plus.
It has a nice picture on it. So that's a plus.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:02, Reply)
^this
And it's about zombies, which is a plus.
But I don't have a kindle. Soz!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:04, Reply)
And it's about zombies, which is a plus.
But I don't have a kindle. Soz!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:04, Reply)
You can get the kindle app on any smartphone.
I thinkkk you can also get it on pc's but i'm not 100% on that.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:10, Reply)
I thinkkk you can also get it on pc's but i'm not 100% on that.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:10, Reply)
Won't do you any good if you register your Kindle app on amazon.co.uk
as his book link is amazon.com and they're cunts about it.
As I just found out.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:22, Reply)
as his book link is amazon.com and they're cunts about it.
As I just found out.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:22, Reply)
Although if you go to
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008C8OZXA
it works. Imagine chinaman thinking we were all Merkins.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:23, Reply)
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008C8OZXA
it works. Imagine chinaman thinking we were all Merkins.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:23, Reply)
I used an app calld mobipocket reader
When a friend sent me the kindle version of Skagboys (Trainspotting prequel). Works well.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:28, Reply)
When a friend sent me the kindle version of Skagboys (Trainspotting prequel). Works well.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:28, Reply)
I prefer books to be honest.
I just wanted to thank chompy for being informative.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:31, Reply)
I just wanted to thank chompy for being informative.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:31, Reply)
Fuck him Q! You should write a book in Chinese, that would show the prick!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:34, Reply)
No I wouldn't.
It puts the cost of tax up for everyone else, and if you're in the position to do it then you're literally pissing on the vast majority of people who are poorer than you.
It's no different than not buying a train ticket, driving without insurance except for one thing, it's legal.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:40, Reply)
It puts the cost of tax up for everyone else, and if you're in the position to do it then you're literally pissing on the vast majority of people who are poorer than you.
It's no different than not buying a train ticket, driving without insurance except for one thing, it's legal.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:40, Reply)
meh
The governm,ent will only waste my money on "social care" and Northerners
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:35, Reply)
The governm,ent will only waste my money on "social care" and Northerners
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:35, Reply)
hang on
i'm a northerner, and my taxes will be paying for your crotch-fruit to get an education...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:50, Reply)
i'm a northerner, and my taxes will be paying for your crotch-fruit to get an education...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:50, Reply)
It's fair to say given the choice the majority of people would tax avoid
no matter how hard they might wring their hands
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:34, Reply)
no matter how hard they might wring their hands
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:34, Reply)
I think if big business was hounded the way the rest of us are about our tax then it might seem less annoying to pay it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:36, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:36, Reply)
If big business paid their tax
our tax could be significantly reduced. Unfortunately, the government won't do so because the companies would just move somewhere else.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:39, Reply)
our tax could be significantly reduced. Unfortunately, the government won't do so because the companies would just move somewhere else.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:39, Reply)
So...........this is why everyone wants to get round paying it.
It's not fair Kroney.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:41, Reply)
It's not fair Kroney.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:41, Reply)
It irriatates me the way politicians go on about "fairness" these days
Anyone over the age of 8 complaining about things not being fair needs to grow the fuck up
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:47, Reply)
Anyone over the age of 8 complaining about things not being fair needs to grow the fuck up
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:47, Reply)
I'd happily jetset around
making the occasional public appearance for mencap spasmo's
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:38, Reply)
making the occasional public appearance for mencap spasmo's
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:38, Reply)
I wouldn't.
Although admittedly that's purely out of a fear of being exposed as a massive hypocrite after all my bashing of people who complain about the higher tax rate.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:37, Reply)
Although admittedly that's purely out of a fear of being exposed as a massive hypocrite after all my bashing of people who complain about the higher tax rate.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:37, Reply)
Listen man, even Saint Bob has been turned by the power of the darkside hedgefunds
you've got no hope in this hypothetical world of wealth
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:40, Reply)
you've got no hope in this hypothetical world of wealth
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:40, Reply)
No I wouldn't that argument is stupid.
I'd no more deliberatly avoid tax than I'd deliberatly not get a train ticket.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:39, Reply)
I'd no more deliberatly avoid tax than I'd deliberatly not get a train ticket.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:39, Reply)
the scale of these things is completely different too
skipping a train a few stops is a bit naughty, conning the country out of millions because your a greedy cunt makes you a greedy cunt
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:41, Reply)
skipping a train a few stops is a bit naughty, conning the country out of millions because your a greedy cunt makes you a greedy cunt
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:41, Reply)
I can't think of anyone I know earning outside of paye who doesn't tax avoid
It's a very grey area
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:42, Reply)
It's a very grey area
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:42, Reply)
^this
The more people earn, the less they want to pay tax and the easier it gets for them.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:45, Reply)
The more people earn, the less they want to pay tax and the easier it gets for them.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:45, Reply)
It shouldn't be though,
there's shouldn't be a borderline acceptance for it, it's wrong and it's damaging to the economy, the government and society.
Tax evasion and avoidance should become a shameful taboo and then we could get some lower taxes for everyone.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:45, Reply)
there's shouldn't be a borderline acceptance for it, it's wrong and it's damaging to the economy, the government and society.
Tax evasion and avoidance should become a shameful taboo and then we could get some lower taxes for everyone.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:45, Reply)
See my point above.
If we were all sure the rich and business were being told to cough up or else then we'd all be happier to chip in.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:46, Reply)
If we were all sure the rich and business were being told to cough up or else then we'd all be happier to chip in.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:46, Reply)
Thay should catagorise it under the same laws against fucking dogs
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
You can't prescribe against it, it's human nature
It all gets fed back into the economy anyway, and will attract VAT, Stamp, CGT, IHT in any event.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
It all gets fed back into the economy anyway, and will attract VAT, Stamp, CGT, IHT in any event.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
He's at the extreme end of avoidance
Most avoidance that goes on is the likes of battered buying fivolous ipads as a 'necessary expence of the business' when really that's bollocks. Still attracts vat, and pays staff wages along the way though. It's not exactly turkmenistan.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:55, Reply)
Most avoidance that goes on is the likes of battered buying fivolous ipads as a 'necessary expence of the business' when really that's bollocks. Still attracts vat, and pays staff wages along the way though. It's not exactly turkmenistan.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:55, Reply)
also
say battered earns £100k, so he pays £3k a month in tax. meanwhile someone else earns £25k a year, so he only pays £750 in tax.
if battered is already contributing £2,250 more per month in tax because of nothing more than his own hard work and abilities, does it matter quite as much if he then skanks a bit of ipad tax back?
moral dilemma...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
say battered earns £100k, so he pays £3k a month in tax. meanwhile someone else earns £25k a year, so he only pays £750 in tax.
if battered is already contributing £2,250 more per month in tax because of nothing more than his own hard work and abilities, does it matter quite as much if he then skanks a bit of ipad tax back?
moral dilemma...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
human nature aint it
irrespective of rights or wrongs nobody will ever go 'please sir take some more', it's the opposite. You only have to look at the ongoing expenses scandal to see what the great and the good of the nation get up to, down to the chavs on the council estate on incapacity and carers allowance cos nobody gives a fuck
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:11, Reply)
irrespective of rights or wrongs nobody will ever go 'please sir take some more', it's the opposite. You only have to look at the ongoing expenses scandal to see what the great and the good of the nation get up to, down to the chavs on the council estate on incapacity and carers allowance cos nobody gives a fuck
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:11, Reply)
depends
pricks on low salaries are mighty quick to say: "please sir, take some more - of their salaries"
people are by nature out to get what they can and keep what they can. and anyone who thinks otherwise is (i) naive and (ii) guaranteed to be a low earner themselves
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:15, Reply)
pricks on low salaries are mighty quick to say: "please sir, take some more - of their salaries"
people are by nature out to get what they can and keep what they can. and anyone who thinks otherwise is (i) naive and (ii) guaranteed to be a low earner themselves
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:15, Reply)
Yes but high earners have a lot more disposable income than low earners
so taking that bit extra doesn't make things a struggle for them.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:22, Reply)
so taking that bit extra doesn't make things a struggle for them.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:22, Reply)
And anyway my wife is an accountant and claims back all sorts of little bits here and there
Even though we could afford not too, so I am a massive hypocrite
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:24, Reply)
Even though we could afford not too, so I am a massive hypocrite
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:24, Reply)
I used too
and it was cheaper than the one I'm paying in Cornwall.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:51, Reply)
and it was cheaper than the one I'm paying in Cornwall.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:51, Reply)
It's easy to be virtuous
when you're never going to have to put it into action.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:44, Reply)
when you're never going to have to put it into action.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:44, Reply)
fucking bollocks, you're basically saying that the more money you have the less desire you have to save it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
No, I'm saying the more money you have, the less likely you're going to be to want to give it to somebody else.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:49, Reply)
It's human nature, I'm afraid.
This same instinct to hoard is the reason why capitalism even exists.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
This same instinct to hoard is the reason why capitalism even exists.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
its human nature to be sexist/racist as well
or it was in the 50s
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:56, Reply)
or it was in the 50s
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:56, Reply)
You're confusing psychology with sociology.
Women were treated as inferior because society traditionally treated them as such. Human beings hoard resources. They fight to protect them, they covet those of others. It's a survival instinct. You can't simply get rid of it by making it naughty.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:59, Reply)
Women were treated as inferior because society traditionally treated them as such. Human beings hoard resources. They fight to protect them, they covet those of others. It's a survival instinct. You can't simply get rid of it by making it naughty.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:59, Reply)
The greatest lie that capitilism has ever sold.
there's no evidence for that and there's a heap of Anthropological evidence that counters it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
there's no evidence for that and there's a heap of Anthropological evidence that counters it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
Humans have only co-operated when it's in the individual's best interests to do so.
The minute they feel they're getting a raw deal, they instantly revert to type. If you want to see what human beings are really like, restrict the food supply. I guarantee you that you won't see any sharing for the greater good.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:08, Reply)
The minute they feel they're getting a raw deal, they instantly revert to type. If you want to see what human beings are really like, restrict the food supply. I guarantee you that you won't see any sharing for the greater good.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:08, Reply)
Yes well ~I can't really be bothered to counteract what you "reckon" when you're talking so much shit.
Go look at villages in Pakistan after the flooding or Japan after the Tsunami and see how they came together to do what they could in their comunities to help everyone.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:12, Reply)
Go look at villages in Pakistan after the flooding or Japan after the Tsunami and see how they came together to do what they could in their comunities to help everyone.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:12, Reply)
Easier to get help to tidy up your own gaff
when you've got a whole bunch of people to help you, isn't it. Co-operation for individual gain.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:14, Reply)
when you've got a whole bunch of people to help you, isn't it. Co-operation for individual gain.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:14, Reply)
Rationing during WW2
Families taking children from the cities etc.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:16, Reply)
Families taking children from the cities etc.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:16, Reply)
Nobody was starving.
If you're going to analyse something that has its root in a survival instinct, you're goign to have to look at situations where it was present in its purest form.
You talk about a disaster, or a war, everybody's on a more or less equal footing. Nobody's actually starving, rationing was actually a great equaliser in that capacity. Nobody's at a survival level. The tsunami had international aid packages and the rest of the country's food reserves. When everybody else is suffering to the same extent you are, people are much more willing to co-operate.
I'm saying that capitalism has its root in the same acquisition of resources as that survival instinct. I'm not saying that all humans act like that all the time, but people are fundamentally selfish and will act in that way when they think they can get away with it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:19, Reply)
If you're going to analyse something that has its root in a survival instinct, you're goign to have to look at situations where it was present in its purest form.
You talk about a disaster, or a war, everybody's on a more or less equal footing. Nobody's actually starving, rationing was actually a great equaliser in that capacity. Nobody's at a survival level. The tsunami had international aid packages and the rest of the country's food reserves. When everybody else is suffering to the same extent you are, people are much more willing to co-operate.
I'm saying that capitalism has its root in the same acquisition of resources as that survival instinct. I'm not saying that all humans act like that all the time, but people are fundamentally selfish and will act in that way when they think they can get away with it.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:19, Reply)
There's a football thread
you can duel this out with rolled up Guardians if you want
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:22, Reply)
you can duel this out with rolled up Guardians if you want
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:22, Reply)
I don't get your argument.
Because peoples self preservation is not immediatly at risk, they didn't have to be greedy?
Unlike Jimmy Carr, who's starving and therefore only able to act under his primal urges.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:24, Reply)
Because peoples self preservation is not immediatly at risk, they didn't have to be greedy?
Unlike Jimmy Carr, who's starving and therefore only able to act under his primal urges.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:24, Reply)
You're taking it too literally.
When everybody has nothing, they will co-operate to survive. When there's an inequality, they will fight each other for resources.
The rich want to keep what they have because they've acquired it themselves, they have a me and mine attitude. The poor want a piece of it through taxing the rich to provide services or more dole money, or whatever. They have a me and mine attitude.
I was just comparing it to a survival instinct because, ultimately, I think it's the same aspect of our character that triggers the behaviour.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:26, Reply)
When everybody has nothing, they will co-operate to survive. When there's an inequality, they will fight each other for resources.
The rich want to keep what they have because they've acquired it themselves, they have a me and mine attitude. The poor want a piece of it through taxing the rich to provide services or more dole money, or whatever. They have a me and mine attitude.
I was just comparing it to a survival instinct because, ultimately, I think it's the same aspect of our character that triggers the behaviour.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:26, Reply)
this is the real answer
if you can afford an £800 an hour tax lawyer...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:57, Reply)
if you can afford an £800 an hour tax lawyer...
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:57, Reply)
I did that once, he saved me £802 in tax
Nakers 1 taxman 0, BOOM!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:01, Reply)
Nakers 1 taxman 0, BOOM!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:01, Reply)
This is true.
If I go shopping with £100, I'm less likely to spend it than if I go shopping with £10.
But that might just be me and not Rswipe.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
If I go shopping with £100, I'm less likely to spend it than if I go shopping with £10.
But that might just be me and not Rswipe.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
to be fair
if you earn the arse-end of fuck-all, it hardly matters anyway.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:47, Reply)
if you earn the arse-end of fuck-all, it hardly matters anyway.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:47, Reply)
I will be genuinely impressed if he does pay the tax he owes
once his landfill recycling business takes off and he becomes richer than Croesus.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
once his landfill recycling business takes off and he becomes richer than Croesus.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:51, Reply)
oh
meh
actually on a non-specific individual basis, i totally agree with you. the only people blithering about "fairness" and "everyone should pay this, that and the other" are the people who have fuck-all. the minute they earn or win or inherit a lot of money, it's a different story.
the only exception being the ex, who earns a fortune but genuinely supports higher taxes etc. the leftie twat.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:58, Reply)
meh
actually on a non-specific individual basis, i totally agree with you. the only people blithering about "fairness" and "everyone should pay this, that and the other" are the people who have fuck-all. the minute they earn or win or inherit a lot of money, it's a different story.
the only exception being the ex, who earns a fortune but genuinely supports higher taxes etc. the leftie twat.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:58, Reply)
i earn a decent wage, pay my taxes
and look down on those that try to avoid doing so
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:02, Reply)
and look down on those that try to avoid doing so
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:02, Reply)
me too
but i maintain that people beating the "pay more taxes" drum are usually the people who do NOT earn a decent wage.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:04, Reply)
but i maintain that people beating the "pay more taxes" drum are usually the people who do NOT earn a decent wage.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:04, Reply)
Of course, if you look at the percentages of what people put into the system compared to waht they take out
you'll seee that poor people are a real drain on the system, so technically, they should be the ones payingmore.
You can't argue with logic
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
you'll seee that poor people are a real drain on the system, so technically, they should be the ones payingmore.
You can't argue with logic
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
This is why I view people from a basis of contempt.
Human beings are, by and large, utterly unpleasant creatures.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
Human beings are, by and large, utterly unpleasant creatures.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:06, Reply)
www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-carrs-tax-avoidance-prompts-twitter-backlash
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:42, Reply)
I have no idea who John Robbins is, but that was a cracking response he made.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:50, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:50, Reply)
He is.
He also thinks it's still acceptable to use the phrase 'you look like a shirt lifter' on television.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:00, Reply)
He also thinks it's still acceptable to use the phrase 'you look like a shirt lifter' on television.
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:00, Reply)
I think he looks like Simon Pegg and Eddie Izzard fucked and had a downs baby
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:18, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:18, Reply)
I saw a fat nerd girl wearinga tshirt today proclaiming
"if I were a zombie I'd eat you first!"
i assume it was AA's sister
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:56, Reply)
"if I were a zombie I'd eat you first!"
i assume it was AA's sister
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:56, Reply)
they do wear 100% polyester track suits and flush their jam rags down the toilet
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
Where the fuck is Battered? I'll fucking do it then......
Your book is shit!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
Your book is shit!
( , Tue 19 Jun 2012, 16:05, Reply)
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