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ROB NEEDS YOU !
usvsth3m.com/post/jobs-looking-for-developer-and-graphics-person-to-work-with-us
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:37, 117 replies, latest was 9 years ago)

ROB

Your disco
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:43, Reply)
I might just send him photos of myself posing provocatively in the snow.
He might then hire me, someone massively unsuitable for the job because I'm just that kinda wakki.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:49, Reply)
I just saw the headline "Jordan executes convicted jihadists"
They're really trying to court controversy in this years celebrity big brother aren't they?
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:53, Reply)
Well I liked it.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:25, Reply)
I think windy ignored me because of it

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:13, Reply)
Pah. These amateurs - they know nothing - NOTHING of your art!

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:35, Reply)
I've just read through a discussion on the old Facebook,
Started by an artist frind of mine moaning that his neighbours only wanted to pay 100 quid for a portrait he's done of their son. (It is an incredibly good portrait).
the discussion seems to be full of other artists/writers/clothes makers/photographera harping on that "no one understands the value of our work" or "I pay so much to create, I need a reasonable return"

Now surely, the only value something has is what someone is willing to pay for it? I make music, I play gigs, I take the money offered by the venue, normally by negotiations around entrance fee or drink takings or whatever, but you take what's on offer. Refusing to do a painting for 100 quid, or do a photo shoot for 50quid seems a bit off to me. you work, if it's good and you market it well, you get popular, your work is more desirable, you start to charge more.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:57, Reply)
So if I had come into your pub and said I only wanted to pay a quid for a pint of bitter that would be all that pint was worth and you would've sold it to me?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:00, Reply)
well no, I didn't create the product did I?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:00, Reply)
Don't devalue the art of pouring a pint

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:02, Reply)
I'll devalue whatever the fuck I want.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:03, Reply)
if you consider art to be your job then I think you should charge price of materials, plus an hourly wage for your labour
then anything anyone wants to give you extra because it looks awesome to them can be considered as a bonus
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:06, Reply)
but how do you settle on an hourly wage?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:07, Reply)
well, considering it's skilled labour...around £15 would probably be right

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:14, Reply)
15.50

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:20, Reply)
Sounds good

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:32, Reply)
take your record for example,
All the ones unsold are worth nothing, just because you ask for 15 quid doesn't mean they're worth 15 quid until someone buys one for that much.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:02, Reply)
Some people think they are worth more than that

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:04, Reply)
yeah, I know that, but that is the only value you can place on something.
You either do art you enjoy and hope someone buys some, or you do art people want.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:05, Reply)
Do the layout of the grooves mean that it's, by coincidence, the most aerodynamic frisbee known to mankind?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:06, Reply)
Sounds unlikely
But you can do what you like with them once you've bought them, you wakki Sean of the Dead prick.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:14, Reply)
New fruit bowls!
Get in!
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:22, Reply)
The negotiation on price should have occured before the work began because it's a "commission"
A portrait doesn't really have a free market value, as very few people would want to buy it. Unless it was a portrait of me.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:00, Reply)
If he was thrifty he'd find someone else to sell it too...this might make his client up the offer
now where could he possibly find a load of guys who would pay good money for portraits of little boys?
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:01, Reply)
I know a guy that knows a guy.
If you know what I mean.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:01, Reply)
I think so, you mean Stunned, right?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:03, Reply)
bingo

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:04, Reply)
No. You have to be 18 to go to Bingo.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:55, Reply)
Surely they worked out the price before he started?
I refuse to do 'cheap' websites now, I have a minimum price. If someone isn't willing to pay that, they'll be more hassle than they're worth; they're normally extremely demanding. I do freebies too, but they have to be on my terms.

I've had like £250/ 3 days work jobs, that are 10 times the hassle of a £1000/ 5-day job.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:13, Reply)
That's what I fucking said
But windy won't reply to me because he's got me on fucking ignore

THE FUCKING CUNT
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:16, Reply)
I assumed it would be too, I couldn't tell you why the buyer decided to try to renegotiate.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:26, Reply)
He should tell the buyer to get fucked, you wouldn't 'rengotiate' with a a cleaner/accountant/resturant.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:57, Reply)
lol

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:40, Reply)
yeah, but that's fine as you can find work at the price you want,
This guy sells almost nothing. And works bars ti pay bills.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:19, Reply)
at least he has a "proper" job.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:52, Reply)
Deffo, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
But a deal's a deal, if either party wasn't happy with the price to begin with, then they shouldn't have gone ahead. If the artist can't get the price he wants for his work, then he needs to look into doing it for a career - which is ovbously failing if he's behind a bar.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:57, Reply)
A woman constantly posts on our local 'spotted' page.
She's trying to flog her artwork and commissions, including portraits of childen and pets from photos.

They look absolutely fucking terrible.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:25, Reply)
buy one, give her false hope.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:26, Reply)
Oh right, I see sheds are *cool* again now
usvsth3m.com/post/this-shed-company-has-the-best-advertising-jingle-that-we-have-ever-heard
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:58, Reply)
that's the whole reason for the new site, so they could talk about sheds again.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 12:59, Reply)
It's the only time one of my suggestions has ever made it onto qotw :(

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:00, Reply)
you're what's wrong with this site.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:01, Reply)
You can pretty much chart its decline from when I started posting

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:04, Reply)
well, I for one am glad you're here.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:06, Reply)
xxx

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:15, Reply)
The cancer that is killing b3ta ^^^

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:12, Reply)
I thought that was you

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:15, Reply)
50% of all websites will get this cancer

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:16, Reply)
I hope you get this cancer
in the head
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:17, Reply)
I don't think that's how it works. Soz.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:49, Reply)
I would be right up for that job, the dev one, but i'm already in a job that i'm happy in.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:04, Reply)
And you don't really enjoy sticking your fingers up dogs bums.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:12, Reply)
I wouldn't go as far as to say I don't enjoy it.... it's just that, if push came to shove (etc etc)

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:42, Reply)
maybe he should put the advert on/links

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:07, Reply)
sounds bent

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:09, Reply)
I have no skills that would benefit anybody
But my Tea is good and I will do all sorts of humiliating things for small amounts of money and/or food
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:18, Reply)
No wonder you found that this place is to your liking.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:23, Reply)
I HAZ MY NU FONE!!

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:42, Reply)
We used to have a right laugh on here.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:49, Reply)
Might go and see The Damned this year. Might not.
Dunno really
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:49, Reply)
They can suck my Blue Vanian.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:50, Reply)
Lucky them

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:51, Reply)
I once went on the log flume at Alton Towers with Captain Sensible
/ac
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:50, Reply)
POIDH

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:51, Reply)
What a horrid euphemism.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:52, Reply)
Alright Ken McKenzie

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:52, Reply)
A bit yewtree innit?

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:52, Reply)
he didn't fuck me
He just sat at the back acting zany and being filmed for the telly
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:00, Reply)
You've got to have a dream.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:08, Reply)
Some of you may recall me bumming my mates band a while back. they were called shrine
they are now called black peaks, and despite being described as jeff buckley meets tool meets mastodon by Zane lowe still managed to get aired on fern cottons show in the day on radio 1. It's pretty heavy to be fair so I was quite surprised.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:57, Reply)
they are booked in for a shit load of festivals this summer so look out for them
I'm totaly biased, but they are worth a watch as they are good live
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 13:59, Reply)
I'll check them out.
If they're no good I'm coming for you.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:07, Reply)
Their current single is called glass built castles

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:14, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXoASrxc_e0
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:18, Reply)
not really my thing, but it's not bad

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:33, Reply)
fair enough. It's one of the more commercially viable tracks from the upcoming albumn

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:34, Reply)
I bet it's got great impact live though, if I see them on a bill I'll definitely have a look.

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:37, Reply)
Dashcam footage of the plane crash
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYczDsj0ATI&feature=youtu.be
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:13, Reply)
Fucking spastics
I bet the pilot spilt his coffee or something while getting fellated by the ladyboy co-pilot.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:21, Reply)
cor!

(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 15:15, Reply)
no wonder he crashed
you can blindfold these people with dental floss.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:22, Reply)
They let anybody fly planes these days.
I nearly had a heart attack the other day when a woman's voice announced she was the captain. It wasn't even a practical joke - they really let a woman fly a commercial airliner. What a world we live in.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:25, Reply)
The world has changed, women aren't just going to stay at home and raise children anymore.
Probably because they're worried that a predatory paedophile like you is going to kidnap and rape their offspring.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 15:01, Reply)
Ooofff!
I walked into that one!
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 15:08, Reply)
I saw that this morning,
From what I've read he did well to turn the plane away from the buildings.
(, Wed 4 Feb 2015, 14:32, Reply)

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