XBOX Executive responds to the XBONE no internet access problem
Seems like a good guy, always thinking of the little people.
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Not taking sides here because they're all a shower of cunts but when I used the PS3 I had to do a ton of firmware updates.
Mostly in order to play a game I owned the disc for.
I assume the PS4 won't be doing this?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:03,
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You'll have to wait to download updates
The xbox is 'always on' so games and apps will download in the background. No more waiting. I also like the fact that new releases will be available for download the same they the boxed versions are in the stores.
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dirtyscarab intends to live forever. So far, so good..., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:07,
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So it's like Steam?
Will Microsoft massively discount titles within months of release too?
BTW Dishonoured is just a tenner at the mo, well worth a purchase.
store.steampowered.com/app/205100/
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:09,
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Nope
Updates will be downloaded in the background by a little always-on 'puter separate from the main processor gubbins.
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To be fair you can just skip it if you want.
Unless you want to get online. With the XB1 however, it seems it'll be an expensive paperweight without Internet access. Which begs the question, how long will Microsoft support the console? Will they ditch it in a decade and a bit? As they like to do with their OS's...
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I couldn't skip my updates
The required firmware is hard coded to the disk.
Cable unplugged it'll still ask for it.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:23,
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Strange.
Always been able to skip mine and install when I want. Try looking in the settings menu. Should be an auto update feature you can turn off.
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Believe me I know my stuff around the PS3 files systems...
Sony hard code the discs and (UMDs for PSP) to only play on certain firmwares and up.
This is why people were upset when they took away linux in an update because they were forced to either update or stop buying new games.
I had to update my PS3 the other month just to play a blu-ray even though it's not had a connection for over a year.
Not a fancy new release, it was Kill Bill.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 16:26,
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Ah, misunderstood.
Still, they include the relevant firmware update on any new game discs themselves, as far as i'm aware. So you never need to be connected.
But yeah, getting rid of Other OS was bad of them and ultimately pontless, as the system was broken open anyway.
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Whatever.
I'm still buying one. If Sony want to market themselves to students who trade in games and can't afford a broadband connection then they're welcome to do it. They just won't make any money. If you can't afford broadband you shouldn't be wasting your money on video games.
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dirtyscarab intends to live forever. So far, so good..., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:03,
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It's not always about beeing broke.
A lot of people dont have access to broadband and have to rely on dial-up.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:06,
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It's not that simple though is it.
What if you live somewhere which has really bad connectivity. Or what if a cable is accidentally cut and you have no internet for a while? It just renders the computer useless.
Not to mention your router packing up and having to wait for a new one.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:06,
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Also when you switch ISPs
And you're without internet for weeks. Or 4 months, like I was when swopping from BT to Virgin.
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This ^^^
Moving house is a ballache, I can live with the hassle of moving its the weeks waiting for the internet!!!
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:20,
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muchly
like when my lettuce is a bit limp!
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:12,
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and when you want to clean your windows
and all you have is the Guardian Media supplement and a bottle of modena balsamic vinegar.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:27,
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When we moved house we spent about 3 months stripping and decorating it before we got everything hooked up and connected again.
The only thing that preserved sanity was being able to access games and DVD box sets in a completely offline environment. Having to set up your broadband and wireless in an environment where you're stripping wallpaper, plastering, sanding, painting, etc, just so you can access your own stuff for which you have paid, seems a bit crap to me.
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:13,
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And when do you MOST need your console??
When the
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Ha ha ha!
I hadn't even thought of that!
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:47,
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.....if the Tories had a policy on games consoles,
I reckon this would be it, word for word.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:11,
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im still in the xbox camp too.
Sony monged up the PS3 launch good and proper, and lost me as a customer, and even led me to hate sony. Theyve bounced back, and it seems like MS are the ones who are cocking up the launch of their new console now, but im still rooting for the Xbox one, as i love my 360 and its game franchises.
Really dont know why everyone is shitting rage turds over the 'always connected' thing though. I can honestly say ive never unplugged my 360 (and even my blu ray player) from the internet. The trading in of games is a bit of a problem, but what with PC games having DRM and all, i assume its how everything is going these days anyway.
The XB1 is capable of playing the same quality games as the PS4 - its not like its powered by a hamster on a wheel. Its still a great bit of kit and it lets me play all those purdy games.
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:11,
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Say you move house and it takes a few days to get a new ISP
none of the games you bought will work
that's shit
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:16,
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I think playing games would be the least of your priorities if you've only just moved in to a new house.
But i know what you mean. Soldiers and folks on ships and oil rigs are gonna be pissed
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:18,
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Also, with regards to this only one game working for one console,
what if your console gets broken somehow? Will you have to buy all of the games again?
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:21,
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But Xboxes never break down, that red ring of death thing never happened to more than half of the first batch
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:26,
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It's utter bullshit.
If you have bought the game in a physical format, it should be yours to do with what you will, within reason obviously. Could you imagine the uproar if sony or disney did that with CDs or DVDs?
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:36,
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Ok, so WHY are you buying an Xbox1 over PS4?
I'm genuienly interested to know, becuase at the moment the PS4 is a no brainer. I have fibre obtic always on broadband but i don't like the path they are taking with the Xbox one. I'll probably end up owning both like I do now.
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:19,
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2 reasons
1) The TV integration. My 360 is the main hub of the living room. I stream stuff from my PC to it, I use it for music, skype, pretty much everything. The XB1 looks a giant leap forward from that. Channel surf with my voice? Hell yeah.
2) I have kids and the xbox is way more kid friendly with Kinect etc.
If I was single and played console games online and swapped games etc then I'd buy a PS4. Since I'm a PC gamer with kids and everyone uses the xbox in the house, it's a way better fit for me.
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dirtyscarab intends to live forever. So far, so good..., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 16:37,
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and with Kenects always on all seeing eye it'll look after your kids
BONUS!
seriously though PS4..no brainer. :)
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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 17:50,
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Pretty sure PS4 has all of those features too
*shrugs*
I have a PS3 and Xbox 360 and I use my PS3 and the central TV/Gaming hub and the Xbox purly for gaming.
If you've got a lot of friends who you play multiplayer one of the deciding factors is "what console does everyone else have". Out of the group of people I play with that have all said PS4 (they all previously owned Xbox's
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Wed 12 Jun 2013, 19:03,
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Did I read somewhere you're unable to play second hand games?
The last games console I owned was a PS1 so i'm probably a bit out of touch
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Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:10,
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I think you're right senior.
It seems ridiculously restrictive.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:14,
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back in my day we didn't need no stinkin' internets:
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JamTallons, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:11,
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*cleans tape head, adjusts azimuth, sets volume to 75%*
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:12,
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Pfft enjoy your muddy screen colours.
Spectrum for the win!
don't ask about colour clash
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:23,
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screw you guys - mine's got the best graphics!!!1
AMSTRAD CPC 6128 FTW
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:25,
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Only paedos have Amstrads CPCs!
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:27,
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ex-BBCb owner here,
looking down his nose at you.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:46,
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My God I used to lust after one of those
we were just too poor :(
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:08,
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Us too, the BBCb was a right expensive bit of kit
Only the toff kids had one of those at home.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:19,
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You plebs missed out on some gems.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNRlnNIOXwk
I've even got an emulator on this work PC, for an occasional game of this (and Knightlore).
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:35,
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Boulderdash!
The BBCb was a good machine, we had them at school.
Loved playing elite and I swear it's got the best keyboard ever.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:41,
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No: "Repton".
Boulderdash just didn't have the je ne sais quoi of Repton.
True about the keyboard though
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 15:55,
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You should really check out "mechanical keyboards" to rediscover that good keyboard feel.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 16:17,
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Pfft
They keep sticking nails in the coffin.
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Brandy_Bumwinkle, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:11,
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Good work on the volume levels...
I had to turn my speaker right up to make out what the guy was saying, and then a deafening "sad trombone" blared out across the office.
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:19,
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