I just skimmed down the page and caught up with MGT vs Grrry over austerity economics.
Lol, it reminds me of the time I tried to explain to Sticky Label why he was wrong about quantum mechanics.
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Lol, it reminds me of the time I tried to explain to Sticky Label why he was wrong about quantum mechanics.
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i dunno, last episode i saw was when sam and al swapped places so that sam had control of ziggy
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The only one I remember is when he was a chimp. Or possibly a black man.
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i remember the one where he had to pretend he had no legs
and freaked a guy out by standing up
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:22, archived)
and freaked a guy out by standing up
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I seem to remember that he ends up leaping forever
because he's an angel, and has to fix the world on behalf of The Almighty.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:24, archived)
because he's an angel, and has to fix the world on behalf of The Almighty.
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that is such a bullshit ending
i would've had him come to a realisation that the only escape is death and have him carefully consider whether or not he should kill himself whenever he leaps as it would also kill his host
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i would've had him come to a realisation that the only escape is death and have him carefully consider whether or not he should kill himself whenever he leaps as it would also kill his host
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:31, archived)
Wouldn't the host just live on in Dr. Beckett's body?
Whatever, the whole "leaping for Jesus" conclusion was rubbish.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:35, archived)
Whatever, the whole "leaping for Jesus" conclusion was rubbish.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:35, archived)
i somehow never imagined that the series even had a conclusion,
it was one of those things that just seemed to go on forever
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:43, archived)
it was one of those things that just seemed to go on forever
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i thought the host went into a waiting room or something?
so, they'd effectively be stuck in limbo forever
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:45, archived)
so, they'd effectively be stuck in limbo forever
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i thought that was back in Sam's lab,
the real non-hologram Al got to interrogate them in there, right?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:48, archived)
the real non-hologram Al got to interrogate them in there, right?
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look right, it's my interpretation of how it should've ended
everyone dies ok?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:50, archived)
everyone dies ok?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:50, archived)
no i'm pretty sure that was actually in an episode,
don't remember it that well though tbh
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:51, archived)
don't remember it that well though tbh
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:51, archived)
The ship stays still and space is bent around it,
or something. Stephen Hawking said it was okay.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:55, archived)
or something. Stephen Hawking said it was okay.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:55, archived)
Stephen Hawking is trouble,
you should stop hanging out with him
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you should stop hanging out with him
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I think he was a little bit of all of us, really.
A little, very stupid bit.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:28, archived)
A little, very stupid bit.
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wasn't he about 17 tho, he was clearly young when he found out he'd knocked up that girl and decided to run away from home
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I can't really imagine him having sex, in my head he's permanently about ten.
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I didn't see that thread
so therefore it is in a state of shit and not shit until someone links to it and collapses the waveform
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:19, archived)
so therefore it is in a state of shit and not shit until someone links to it and collapses the waveform
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 16:19, archived)
Somebody just asked me a technical question in knots. Fucking knots. Like a fucking Victorian fucking sailor or sutin.
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maybe if you had tried harder at school you wouldn't be spending your days trying to sell photocopiers to special needs cretins at the local council
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The great thing about about quantum mechanics is that it's all uncertain and no one understands it so thick people can feel better about themselves.
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it shows like how we're all really interconnected and have free will and that anything is possible
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And like maybe God controlled our intelligent design by like Quantuming our ancestors' gene codes?
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god quantumed me to set fire to that bin with a homeless person sleeping in it last week.
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Maybe work harder and you won't have to live somewhere so grim.
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I like the bit where finds himself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home.
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oh god mongy has already done this in the thread i'm so embarrassed
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Hey gays!
There's nothing more thrilling than half- informed yet adamant opinions about global economics but why don't we calm this shit down, yeah? Too much excitement is bad for the skin.
I've got Om and Lightning Bolt and Battles and Teleman and Sleaford Mods gigs coming up. So how is your mum these days?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:32, archived)
There's nothing more thrilling than half- informed yet adamant opinions about global economics but why don't we calm this shit down, yeah? Too much excitement is bad for the skin.
I've got Om and Lightning Bolt and Battles and Teleman and Sleaford Mods gigs coming up. So how is your mum these days?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:32, archived)
I would be willing to accompany you to see at least half of those bands.
I can't get my head around Sleaford Mods though.
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I can't get my head around Sleaford Mods though.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:33, archived)
I also like how they realise how limited their 15 minutes is and are churning out as much material as possible before it ends
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They're dodgy looking old cunts from the industrial midlands who you'd probably cross the road to avoid at night.
One of them dresses like a teenager and lays down phat beats. The other has Tourettes and is very very fucking angry about the world.
What's not to love?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:37, archived)
One of them dresses like a teenager and lays down phat beats. The other has Tourettes and is very very fucking angry about the world.
What's not to love?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:37, archived)
^This
the quality of a band is directly proportional to the amount of black and white face paint they're wearing. Leather, talcum powder and cherry sauce are also factors to consider
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:34, archived)
the quality of a band is directly proportional to the amount of black and white face paint they're wearing. Leather, talcum powder and cherry sauce are also factors to consider
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:34, archived)
KISS and Insane Clown Posse are the pinnacles of human musical achievement?
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I've only heard a few of their tracks but I quite like what I've heard.
They've done a good job of crossing hip-hop with Fall-ish post-punk.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:51, archived)
They've done a good job of crossing hip-hop with Fall-ish post-punk.
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oh they are bands, i thought they might be new pokemon or saink
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she's fine, thanks
those are some good gigs. I'd wear earplugs for Om.
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those are some good gigs. I'd wear earplugs for Om.
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i like some, but not all, of the bands listed
your taste in music is sort of ok i guess
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your taste in music is sort of ok i guess
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this isn't right
we ought to be far more judgemental of each other's musical preferences.
I bet you like bagpipe music really.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:48, archived)
we ought to be far more judgemental of each other's musical preferences.
I bet you like bagpipe music really.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:48, archived)
I watched the peatbog faeries at the weekend
Bagpipe and fiddle techno.
I hated it so much that I danced until I collapsed.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:50, archived)
Bagpipe and fiddle techno.
I hated it so much that I danced until I collapsed.
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Absolutely true.
I was expecting to hate it was fucking brilliant.
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I was expecting to hate it was fucking brilliant.
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I only really enjoy dancing when I'm 100% certain that no one else is watching.
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I wish he'd do something with that greasy ponytail and scraggy beard
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Can we maybe get a list of whose mum's dead and whose is still alive to avoid upsetting people with your mum comments.
and so I can see who's still available
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and so I can see who's still available
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My mum is still alive
My dad is also still alive if you're that way inclined.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:48, archived)
My dad is also still alive if you're that way inclined.
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I haven't heard of any of those bands,
so I'm going to err on the side of caution and assume you have atrocious taste in music.
Good to have you back, though, Doc.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:51, archived)
so I'm going to err on the side of caution and assume you have atrocious taste in music.
Good to have you back, though, Doc.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:51, archived)
Lightning Bolt is deliberately jarring noise
Battles is quirky sounds over mental beats which gets regularly used as Top Gear background music.
Sleaford Mods are what happens when music talent scouts get desperate.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:54, archived)
Battles is quirky sounds over mental beats which gets regularly used as Top Gear background music.
Sleaford Mods are what happens when music talent scouts get desperate.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:54, archived)
the only thing sadder than automotive pedants is music trivia afficiondos
So why not have both?
Also, this is Battles' most accessible track , so if you don't like it, don't bother listening to anything else.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:06, archived)
So why not have both?
Also, this is Battles' most accessible track , so if you don't like it, don't bother listening to anything else.
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That first link might be the worst thing on the entire internet.
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surely their most accessible track is the first single from that album
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGp-22t0lU
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGp-22t0lU
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That's all well and good,
but what sort of exhaust have you fitted to your Corsa?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:34, archived)
but what sort of exhaust have you fitted to your Corsa?
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they were only interesting when tyondai braxton was still in the band
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Yeah. But you'd learn something from the Janet and John books.
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Probably they were a bit before my time.
Still every day is a school day!
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Still every day is a school day!
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I like tea from a proper china cup
But coffee from a big crude mug.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 11:45, archived)
But coffee from a big crude mug.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 11:45, archived)
B I T F R U I T Y ! ! !
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 18:46, archived)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Demolition more like, smashing back doors in and breaking hearts
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:27, archived)
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Ripping out perfectly good plumbing and flogging the copper to gyppos.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:28, archived)
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Last time I weighed in I had to create an account and get a scrap yard I.d, fucking tax man
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I carted a complete cast iron bath to the scrappy and got a fiver for it
50 fucking kilos and all I got was two pints. Fucking joke.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:18, archived)
50 fucking kilos and all I got was two pints. Fucking joke.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:18, archived)
it's fairly mainstream economics,
quite uncontroversial really. perfectly pragmatic, rather than ideologically-based like austerity is.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:07, archived)
quite uncontroversial really. perfectly pragmatic, rather than ideologically-based like austerity is.
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All geography teachers are proper twats.
Why the fuck would a normal person end up as a geography teacher?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:29, archived)
Why the fuck would a normal person end up as a geography teacher?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:29, archived)
austerity isn't ideology-based
it's about cutting down your average spending so that you can actually pay off some of your t-bills, instead of constantly rolling them over. You're basically saying not buying chocolate this month so that you can pay off the credit card is a matter of ideology.
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it's about cutting down your average spending so that you can actually pay off some of your t-bills, instead of constantly rolling them over. You're basically saying not buying chocolate this month so that you can pay off the credit card is a matter of ideology.
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I'm really looking forward to your attempts to defend the analogy between household bills and government spending.
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( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:26, archived)
It's not that hard.
You lose your job but you still have bills to pay. You still own loads of smart shirts and a decent jag, so you hand out loads of IOUs to your mates to borrow some cash to keep up the mortgage repayments, and dump whatever excess spending you have on your credit card.
As long as you still look like you're flash and keep telling people you're "between jobs" rather than dolescum, they'll let you pay off your IOUs with more IOUs so that you can keep the bailliffs at bay. Occasionally you flog something like your family heirlooms or a bit of your back garden to cover unexpected expenses, and that's basically how the UK Government has maintained itself for the last 30 years.
this analogy does not take into account the massive revenues generated by the City of London banking sector, since no-one really understands how those fraudulent cunts are managing their money anyway.
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You lose your job but you still have bills to pay. You still own loads of smart shirts and a decent jag, so you hand out loads of IOUs to your mates to borrow some cash to keep up the mortgage repayments, and dump whatever excess spending you have on your credit card.
As long as you still look like you're flash and keep telling people you're "between jobs" rather than dolescum, they'll let you pay off your IOUs with more IOUs so that you can keep the bailliffs at bay. Occasionally you flog something like your family heirlooms or a bit of your back garden to cover unexpected expenses, and that's basically how the UK Government has maintained itself for the last 30 years.
this analogy does not take into account the massive revenues generated by the City of London banking sector, since no-one really understands how those fraudulent cunts are managing their money anyway.
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and when required you create pretend money
which can still be spent so it's just as good as the real thing, but give it to those who already have money because they'll pass it on, right?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:44, archived)
which can still be spent so it's just as good as the real thing, but give it to those who already have money because they'll pass it on, right?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:44, archived)
well, the creating-cash thing only works if it's a temporary measure to write off some of those IOUs
It doesn't work if you use it to purchase seven buy-to-let mortgages, trapping the wealth back into fixed assets and more debt products, which is what the middle class have been doing for the past decade.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
It doesn't work if you use it to purchase seven buy-to-let mortgages, trapping the wealth back into fixed assets and more debt products, which is what the middle class have been doing for the past decade.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
what about if you used it to improve infrastructure and build hospitals, y'know, job creating stuff?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
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I recently built a shed which is a perfectly useful analogy for government investment in infrastructure.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:57, archived)
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like a shed for storage or some sort of bar to entertain guests with?
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Whichever is the most trite comparison with social housing and nhs hospitals.
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Addenbrookes has a branch of Burger King inside it.
How's that for healthy?
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How's that for healthy?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:09, archived)
Almost certainly.
Their many branches of Costa don't seem particularly cheap.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:13, archived)
Their many branches of Costa don't seem particularly cheap.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:13, archived)
Good, that'll stop people loitering in hospitals, lazy sick bastards
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I do forget how many of the people on here have worked in the global finance industry for the last ten years
I miss Teviot Moose :(
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:47, archived)
I miss Teviot Moose :(
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:47, archived)
have you worked in the global finance industry for the last ten years?
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( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:00, archived)
not for the last six months, no
so everything I knew before that is now completely irrelevant.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:07, archived)
so everything I knew before that is now completely irrelevant.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:07, archived)
If you genuinely don't appreciate that any explanation of economics that relies on comparisons with household spending is utterly vacuous
then it's no wonder people think the finance sector is peopled by morons.
No'ffence like.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:16, archived)
then it's no wonder people think the finance sector is peopled by morons.
No'ffence like.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:16, archived)
It's an analogy Shambles, not the core lecture of a master's degree at LSE
I'm starting to wish I hadn't stuck up for you now.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:22, archived)
I'm starting to wish I hadn't stuck up for you now.
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I do admire your technique of calling everything shit without ever offering a counter-argument.
You haven't changed a bit.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:29, archived)
You haven't changed a bit.
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And yet, no one is crying to the mods to have him removed from the board.
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You haven't given anything material to engage with.
A facile comparison with household economics isn't worth responding to with anything more than derision.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:07, archived)
A facile comparison with household economics isn't worth responding to with anything more than derision.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:07, archived)
one would think you could crush such a petty analogy in a single sentence
rather than making up excuse after excuse for not presenting your own actual opinion, if you even have one.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:10, archived)
rather than making up excuse after excuse for not presenting your own actual opinion, if you even have one.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:10, archived)
It's an obviously shit analogy. Why would anybody need to crush it?
The economy is nothing like household finances. Hurrdurrdurrp. QED.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:29, archived)
The economy is nothing like household finances. Hurrdurrdurrp. QED.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:29, archived)
no, but this is:
www.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2013/05/20130523t1830vNT.aspx
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:33, archived)
www.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2013/05/20130523t1830vNT.aspx
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:33, archived)
this analogy does not take into account the actual reality of government,
which is that government expenditure is a significant percentage of GDP, so it feeds back. An individual man with an individual smart shirt doesn't operate on that kind of scale.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:47, archived)
which is that government expenditure is a significant percentage of GDP, so it feeds back. An individual man with an individual smart shirt doesn't operate on that kind of scale.
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yes it is,
it's based on the idea of giving people what they deserve, the "doing the right thing" of David Cameron's rhetoric, or the "hard-working people", or the "muscular Christianity" that he recently invoked.
As the not Shambles says, government debt is not a credit card. Public spending is an investment in the nation's economy that results in increased GDP and therefore increased tax revenue. There is a sustainable level of constant rolling-over that maximises growth, but George Osborne is now going on about permanently running a surplus, which is economic insanity. It's not about maximising growth, otherwise they'd listen to the majority of economists who think that austerity has positively damaged the economy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:35, archived)
it's based on the idea of giving people what they deserve, the "doing the right thing" of David Cameron's rhetoric, or the "hard-working people", or the "muscular Christianity" that he recently invoked.
As the not Shambles says, government debt is not a credit card. Public spending is an investment in the nation's economy that results in increased GDP and therefore increased tax revenue. There is a sustainable level of constant rolling-over that maximises growth, but George Osborne is now going on about permanently running a surplus, which is economic insanity. It's not about maximising growth, otherwise they'd listen to the majority of economists who think that austerity has positively damaged the economy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:35, archived)
"Public spending is an investment in the nation's economy that results in increased GDP and therefore increased tax revenue."
That's very much an ideology right there, and Greece is a good example of how little that works. A lot of bureaucracy, plenty of infrastructure, dozens if not hundreds of PPPs and NGOs have no impact on the economy whatsoever, and certainly don't do anything for the GDP - they're purely ideological services.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:46, archived)
That's very much an ideology right there, and Greece is a good example of how little that works. A lot of bureaucracy, plenty of infrastructure, dozens if not hundreds of PPPs and NGOs have no impact on the economy whatsoever, and certainly don't do anything for the GDP - they're purely ideological services.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:46, archived)
it's not an ideology it's economic orthodoxy,
and it's been proved right, time and again... Greece is a terrible example of how little that works. Greece is an example of a country where nobody paid their taxes.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:48, archived)
and it's been proved right, time and again... Greece is a terrible example of how little that works. Greece is an example of a country where nobody paid their taxes.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:48, archived)
"economic orthodoxy"
You really do talk out of your arse sometimes MGT
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
You really do talk out of your arse sometimes MGT
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
well call it what you like,
but you will have to explain to me where the ideology is in "looking at how the economy actually works and stating your findings on that"
i don't even understand how it is in any way non-obvious. i mean i can understand how you might think that high taxes could strangle an economy, but the exact mystery in the idea that the government paying people to do things actually results in people having more money to spend, kind of eludes me.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:00, archived)
but you will have to explain to me where the ideology is in "looking at how the economy actually works and stating your findings on that"
i don't even understand how it is in any way non-obvious. i mean i can understand how you might think that high taxes could strangle an economy, but the exact mystery in the idea that the government paying people to do things actually results in people having more money to spend, kind of eludes me.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:00, archived)
you're talking in brush strokes that avoid the core details of pretty much every scenario.
Greece paid their employees 14 months' salary for 11 months work. That didn't result in economic prosperity; it resulted in massive amounts of public and private debt as people used their inflated incomes to leverage even more loans.
The Soviet Union pumped obscene amounts of cash into infrastructure, schools, hospitals, universities, factories and power stations from Poland to Vladivovstock; their economy still collapsed because the amount of money they paid in had no impact on the efficiency and therefore profitability of the operation they set up.
Throwing cash at things is not the way to make an economy work, and the 20th century is littered with examples of that.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:06, archived)
Greece paid their employees 14 months' salary for 11 months work. That didn't result in economic prosperity; it resulted in massive amounts of public and private debt as people used their inflated incomes to leverage even more loans.
The Soviet Union pumped obscene amounts of cash into infrastructure, schools, hospitals, universities, factories and power stations from Poland to Vladivovstock; their economy still collapsed because the amount of money they paid in had no impact on the efficiency and therefore profitability of the operation they set up.
Throwing cash at things is not the way to make an economy work, and the 20th century is littered with examples of that.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:06, archived)
Not overpaying public sector workers is economically prudent,
but austerity goes beyond that.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:11, archived)
but austerity goes beyond that.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:11, archived)
"austerity" seems to have become shorthand for welfare cutbacks
rather than the broader picture of smaller goverment (reducing bureacracy, shutting down ineffective NGOs, possibly privatising failing industries).
What we had over here was 10% of your state pension contributions going into private funds which were supposedly better-performing. That lasted a whopping three years before people got fed up of the CEO's huge bonuses with sub-par interest yields.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:44, archived)
rather than the broader picture of smaller goverment (reducing bureacracy, shutting down ineffective NGOs, possibly privatising failing industries).
What we had over here was 10% of your state pension contributions going into private funds which were supposedly better-performing. That lasted a whopping three years before people got fed up of the CEO's huge bonuses with sub-par interest yields.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:44, archived)
Austerity, to me at least,
is welfare cutbacks and the privatisation/removal of state provided services.
I'm not particularly happy about any of it.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:47, archived)
is welfare cutbacks and the privatisation/removal of state provided services.
I'm not particularly happy about any of it.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:47, archived)
I've seen what welfare means in both Poland and the UK
and I definitely think there's room for cuts to be made on the UK side. I've a 45-year-old cousin who's done six months of work in her life, then signed off sick due to the "stress" of working in a post office. Her 75-year-old father still does long-distance truck driving to support her, since she refuses to work.
I don't want to hurt the genuinely disadvantaged, but it is far too easy to take the piss with the UK welfare system as it stands.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:01, archived)
and I definitely think there's room for cuts to be made on the UK side. I've a 45-year-old cousin who's done six months of work in her life, then signed off sick due to the "stress" of working in a post office. Her 75-year-old father still does long-distance truck driving to support her, since she refuses to work.
I don't want to hurt the genuinely disadvantaged, but it is far too easy to take the piss with the UK welfare system as it stands.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:01, archived)
the media love raising moral panic about benefit fraud,
but it's really an insignificant drain of resources in the grand scheme of things, but here we see what it really comes down to, what i said it was about in the first place, about who "deserves" money.
The idea that people get given welfare for doing nothing, and thus don't "deserve" anything, that really pisses people off who work really hard for whatever they earn, and thus do "deserve" it.
It's the work ethic ideology that i know for a fact that you have, which you've been quite open about in the past.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:12, archived)
but it's really an insignificant drain of resources in the grand scheme of things, but here we see what it really comes down to, what i said it was about in the first place, about who "deserves" money.
The idea that people get given welfare for doing nothing, and thus don't "deserve" anything, that really pisses people off who work really hard for whatever they earn, and thus do "deserve" it.
It's the work ethic ideology that i know for a fact that you have, which you've been quite open about in the past.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:12, archived)
That's not what you said in the first place at all, unless you're just a generally bad communicator.
Austerity as a government process for cutting spending is not an ideology, which was our argument. Where those cuts are made isn't even an ideology; you don't cut the services that help grow the economy (like rail/road/air infrastructure, or pension funds), so you have to make your cuts elsewhere. Unfortunately in the UK, there's not that much left to sell off since Maggie did so much of it 25 years ago, so the only non-growth spending areas left are the NHS and welfare, so that's where the cuts are being made.
Deciding which benefit claimants get cut off may be an ideology, but that's a long step from your original statement.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:18, archived)
Austerity as a government process for cutting spending is not an ideology, which was our argument. Where those cuts are made isn't even an ideology; you don't cut the services that help grow the economy (like rail/road/air infrastructure, or pension funds), so you have to make your cuts elsewhere. Unfortunately in the UK, there's not that much left to sell off since Maggie did so much of it 25 years ago, so the only non-growth spending areas left are the NHS and welfare, so that's where the cuts are being made.
Deciding which benefit claimants get cut off may be an ideology, but that's a long step from your original statement.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:18, archived)
yes it is
www.b3ta.com/talk/7837563
'it's based on the idea of giving people what they deserve, the "doing the right thing" of David Cameron's rhetoric, or the "hard-working people", or the "muscular Christianity" that he recently invoked.'
Benefits are being cut because according to Tory ideology, rich people deserve their inheritance while poor people don't deserve benefits. That is exactly what i said in the first place and that is exactly the reason behind austerity policy, and absolutely nothing to do with economic good sense.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:24, archived)
www.b3ta.com/talk/7837563
'it's based on the idea of giving people what they deserve, the "doing the right thing" of David Cameron's rhetoric, or the "hard-working people", or the "muscular Christianity" that he recently invoked.'
Benefits are being cut because according to Tory ideology, rich people deserve their inheritance while poor people don't deserve benefits. That is exactly what i said in the first place and that is exactly the reason behind austerity policy, and absolutely nothing to do with economic good sense.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:24, archived)
That's your ideology showing, not the Torys'.
If you implement an aggressive inheritance tax (which is already 40% in the UK) then you're going to break up large estates and companies that only work due to their size and the inherent economies of scale. You'll chase the 1% out of the country just like France did, and end up with no appreciable gains and lots of negatives from wealth flight overseas.
Can you come up with any actual feasible, plausible areas for government cutbacks other than the current areas, or credible plans for long-term growth?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:33, archived)
If you implement an aggressive inheritance tax (which is already 40% in the UK) then you're going to break up large estates and companies that only work due to their size and the inherent economies of scale. You'll chase the 1% out of the country just like France did, and end up with no appreciable gains and lots of negatives from wealth flight overseas.
Can you come up with any actual feasible, plausible areas for government cutbacks other than the current areas, or credible plans for long-term growth?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:33, archived)
oh, a good old Tu Quoque, is it?
only i didn't make any such claims about who deserves what, or advocate inheritance tax, clearly it hit a nerve.
I've heard this "all the rich people will leave" line before, though. It'll take a bit more than not abolishing inheritance tax for that to happen. Never heard of it breaking up a large company, tbh, i think you're just making things up now.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:38, archived)
only i didn't make any such claims about who deserves what, or advocate inheritance tax, clearly it hit a nerve.
I've heard this "all the rich people will leave" line before, though. It'll take a bit more than not abolishing inheritance tax for that to happen. Never heard of it breaking up a large company, tbh, i think you're just making things up now.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:38, archived)
pffft, you hardly hit a nerve, I won't get a penny
but capital flight is well documented, as are tools in place to prevent corporate dynasties (which is why posh twats put their money into trusts and whatnot).
I think we should politely conclude things at this point.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:56, archived)
but capital flight is well documented, as are tools in place to prevent corporate dynasties (which is why posh twats put their money into trusts and whatnot).
I think we should politely conclude things at this point.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:56, archived)
Signing her off is decision made by her GP,
and if she's creaming such a cushy living from the state, why is her dad still working to support her? Cutting her money is just going to put more pressure on the old man.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:34, archived)
and if she's creaming such a cushy living from the state, why is her dad still working to support her? Cutting her money is just going to put more pressure on the old man.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:34, archived)
The old man jokes that he spends so much time on the road
to avoid being at home with his withered spinster of a daughter. She looks like Aunt Sally from Wurzel Gummidge has been left out in the rain.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:02, archived)
to avoid being at home with his withered spinster of a daughter. She looks like Aunt Sally from Wurzel Gummidge has been left out in the rain.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:02, archived)
or privatising perfectly good state businesses
by selling them off at bargain basement prices, only for the private sector to fuck them up and need bailing out, again.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:48, archived)
by selling them off at bargain basement prices, only for the private sector to fuck them up and need bailing out, again.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:48, archived)
That part we can agree on
That was Osbourne giving kickbacks to his cronies rather than good economic policy. Another country (I forgot which) linked banker bonuses to the Toxic Asset portfolio the country had created and, surprise surprise, the ailing bank somehow recovered.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:50, archived)
That was Osbourne giving kickbacks to his cronies rather than good economic policy. Another country (I forgot which) linked banker bonuses to the Toxic Asset portfolio the country had created and, surprise surprise, the ailing bank somehow recovered.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:50, archived)
That last idea sounds pretty smart.
Didn't think you'd support the state reaching into the banking industry, though - not exactly small government, is it?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:52, archived)
Didn't think you'd support the state reaching into the banking industry, though - not exactly small government, is it?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:52, archived)
The banking industry definitely needs a degree of regulation
but I appreciate the way it works in the UK. I watched a trader here negotiate a 3million pound tax payment with an equivalent trader in Her Majesty's Inland Revenue (before the customs/excise merger). Quick phone call, a bit of higher-higher-lower let's-shake-on-it, and the Polish bank has saved a bit of cash and the British Government gets a nice chunk paid instantly by wire transfer. That's how public-private financing *should* work, and it's why the UK is the global hub for banking and financing.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:57, archived)
but I appreciate the way it works in the UK. I watched a trader here negotiate a 3million pound tax payment with an equivalent trader in Her Majesty's Inland Revenue (before the customs/excise merger). Quick phone call, a bit of higher-higher-lower let's-shake-on-it, and the Polish bank has saved a bit of cash and the British Government gets a nice chunk paid instantly by wire transfer. That's how public-private financing *should* work, and it's why the UK is the global hub for banking and financing.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:57, archived)
When you're dealing with spot transactions it's very much "how much tax are you going to charge me?"
"If it's too high I'll do the deal in Frankfurt or Paris instead. So let's make it worthwhile for eachother."
Or, of course "I'll pay 3mil right now, or 5mil at years' end so you'll have to wait 8 months for it so you can't balance your books until then. Your call".
It's this immediacy that makes it mutually beneficial. Otherwise the state has to wait for a company to make its end of year accounting, then three months to process it and another two to balance the payment, and THEN you can start making national budgets based on those receipts. Which is a horrendously inefficient way to run an economy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:13, archived)
"If it's too high I'll do the deal in Frankfurt or Paris instead. So let's make it worthwhile for eachother."
Or, of course "I'll pay 3mil right now, or 5mil at years' end so you'll have to wait 8 months for it so you can't balance your books until then. Your call".
It's this immediacy that makes it mutually beneficial. Otherwise the state has to wait for a company to make its end of year accounting, then three months to process it and another two to balance the payment, and THEN you can start making national budgets based on those receipts. Which is a horrendously inefficient way to run an economy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:13, archived)
Closer integration with Europe to standardise tax systems would help here.
Ideally, I'd like a one world government, which would eliminate tax havens entirely. I don't see why businesses can't stick to the same 12 month tax cycle as everyone else - after all, they can't be any more complex than the average household economy. ;)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:48, archived)
Ideally, I'd like a one world government, which would eliminate tax havens entirely. I don't see why businesses can't stick to the same 12 month tax cycle as everyone else - after all, they can't be any more complex than the average household economy. ;)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:48, archived)
Most governments in Europe want to see a standardised system
but as the vote on the Tobin tax proved a few years ago, it has to be on France and Germany's terms, and those two are far more responsible for the european recession than anything London ever did.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:01, archived)
but as the vote on the Tobin tax proved a few years ago, it has to be on France and Germany's terms, and those two are far more responsible for the european recession than anything London ever did.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 15:01, archived)
Nonsense, MGT.
We have a world class rail system, and it costs the taxpayer nothing!
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:50, archived)
We have a world class rail system, and it costs the taxpayer nothing!
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:50, archived)
lol.
i particularly like the way that they're now, finally, getting round to retiring that aging fleet of Intercity 125s that can only go as fast as 125mph, and replacing them with brand spanking new Japanese made trains that can go at a frankly astonishing 125mph.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:56, archived)
i particularly like the way that they're now, finally, getting round to retiring that aging fleet of Intercity 125s that can only go as fast as 125mph, and replacing them with brand spanking new Japanese made trains that can go at a frankly astonishing 125mph.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:56, archived)
hey no-one is saying you can just "throw money willy nilly",
only that austerity and its justifying rhetoric is bullshit. There's a sensible rate at which you can throw money.
But on the Soviet Union, their economy grew quite rapidly until it was strangled by the Cold War requirements of pumping everything into the military, which is essentially unproductive assets, their international isolation forced them to rely almost entirely on domestically-produced raw materials resulting in a Ricardian trap; and anyway, they only really got into the shit as soon as they tried adopting capitalism instead. Study this chart:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Soviet_Union_GDP.gif
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:15, archived)
only that austerity and its justifying rhetoric is bullshit. There's a sensible rate at which you can throw money.
But on the Soviet Union, their economy grew quite rapidly until it was strangled by the Cold War requirements of pumping everything into the military, which is essentially unproductive assets, their international isolation forced them to rely almost entirely on domestically-produced raw materials resulting in a Ricardian trap; and anyway, they only really got into the shit as soon as they tried adopting capitalism instead. Study this chart:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Soviet_Union_GDP.gif
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:15, archived)
That chart doesn't explain things at all
even that growth in the 70s was fueled by excessive loans taken at exorbitant rates from Western economies, resulting in industrial output having to pay off the interest rather than fuel domestic growth. The Gierek era in Poland is a prime example of this. It wasn't strangled by military spending at all, and if it were then based on that idea the US would have imploded three decades ago.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:28, archived)
even that growth in the 70s was fueled by excessive loans taken at exorbitant rates from Western economies, resulting in industrial output having to pay off the interest rather than fuel domestic growth. The Gierek era in Poland is a prime example of this. It wasn't strangled by military spending at all, and if it were then based on that idea the US would have imploded three decades ago.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:28, archived)
but GDP was growing during the '70s...
it wasn't growing during the early '90s...
The Gierek era was strangled by the 1973 oil crisis, the article says as much
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:43, archived)
it wasn't growing during the early '90s...
The Gierek era was strangled by the 1973 oil crisis, the article says as much
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:43, archived)
The '73 oil crisis was a drop in the ocean as to why the Gierek era failed
but the same was true all across the Union and its satellite states. Immense foreign loans, high government costs, inefficient output and massive state corruption - the same issues that have affected any economy where government spending is a significant portion of GDP.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:53, archived)
but the same was true all across the Union and its satellite states. Immense foreign loans, high government costs, inefficient output and massive state corruption - the same issues that have affected any economy where government spending is a significant portion of GDP.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:53, archived)
well that's odd,
because it pretty much screwed manufacturing everywhere.
Government spending is always a significant portion of GDP. Even with austerity it's been consistently over 40%.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:00, archived)
because it pretty much screwed manufacturing everywhere.
Government spending is always a significant portion of GDP. Even with austerity it's been consistently over 40%.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:00, archived)
it was under 40% for the 20 years preceding the 2008 crisis
It hasn't been this high since the early 80s, when Thatcher had to implement mass state selloffs, industry closures and cutbacks to stem the hemorrhaging of public funds. So I'm not sure what your point is.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:08, archived)
It hasn't been this high since the early 80s, when Thatcher had to implement mass state selloffs, industry closures and cutbacks to stem the hemorrhaging of public funds. So I'm not sure what your point is.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:08, archived)
Government spending is always a significant portion of GDP.
I don't know what sort of government you would advocate that didn't spend a significant portion of GDP, go back to feudalism?
Thatcher's government was raking it in from North Sea Oil, anyway. The economic success of her regime certainly had little to do with austerity, they were putting people on the sickie just to get them off unemployment statistics.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:13, archived)
I don't know what sort of government you would advocate that didn't spend a significant portion of GDP, go back to feudalism?
Thatcher's government was raking it in from North Sea Oil, anyway. The economic success of her regime certainly had little to do with austerity, they were putting people on the sickie just to get them off unemployment statistics.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:13, archived)
And I've never advocated for zero government spending, but you can twist the words "significant portion" to mean however much supports your argument
whereas the fact is that government spending hasn't been this high a portion of GDP for 30 years, which is also the last time the economy was shagged. The solution back then was to, in part, reduce the amount of government spending, but despite claims of "economic orthodoxy" you seem fundamentally opposed to it this time round.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:21, archived)
whereas the fact is that government spending hasn't been this high a portion of GDP for 30 years, which is also the last time the economy was shagged. The solution back then was to, in part, reduce the amount of government spending, but despite claims of "economic orthodoxy" you seem fundamentally opposed to it this time round.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:21, archived)
spending as a portion of GDP is up,
because GDP is down and there are structural expenditures, the NHS doesn't suddenly become cheaper to run when the economy goes down the pan, so obviously it's going to be a bigger portion of GDP. The "best" proportion of GDP to spend is obviously variable.
You used the phrase "significant portion", what did you mean by it when you claimed it led to "high government costs, inefficient output and massive state corruption".
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:30, archived)
because GDP is down and there are structural expenditures, the NHS doesn't suddenly become cheaper to run when the economy goes down the pan, so obviously it's going to be a bigger portion of GDP. The "best" proportion of GDP to spend is obviously variable.
You used the phrase "significant portion", what did you mean by it when you claimed it led to "high government costs, inefficient output and massive state corruption".
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 14:30, archived)
Talking in brushstrokes? You compared government debt repayment to people buying too much chocolate.
You bellrind.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:18, archived)
You bellrind.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:18, archived)
i really like you today,
and not just because of the word "bellrind", although that really helps
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:19, archived)
and not just because of the word "bellrind", although that really helps
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:19, archived)
God. If I'd known I could win friends just by occasionally agreeing with them I'd prolly be president by now.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:22, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:22, archived)
isn't part of the problem with greece that their currency is not controlled by greece
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:49, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:49, archived)
that too,
meaning that when they did elect an anti-austerity party, the ECB wouldn't actually allow them to implement the policies they'd been elected for.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
meaning that when they did elect an anti-austerity party, the ECB wouldn't actually allow them to implement the policies they'd been elected for.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
It'd be easier to believe that austerity wasn't rooted in ideology
if it had actually reduced the national debt.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:47, archived)
if it had actually reduced the national debt.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:47, archived)
indeed...
or actually led to economic recovery, which is still abysmal compared to other economic crises, and what recovery we have had is largely down to immigration, which the Tories are also quite keen on putting a stop to.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
or actually led to economic recovery, which is still abysmal compared to other economic crises, and what recovery we have had is largely down to immigration, which the Tories are also quite keen on putting a stop to.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
Still, the Labour Party are doing all they can to rig the leadership election against Corbyn,
so we'd better get used to austerity going unchallenged for a few more years. I'll take comfort in knowing that Grrry is happy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:07, archived)
so we'd better get used to austerity going unchallenged for a few more years. I'll take comfort in knowing that Grrry is happy.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:07, archived)
I'm not exactly happy
but even if I do recognise that it takes money to make money, I recognise that government spending is the slowest, most painful and most detrimental way to supply that money to the people. So if "austerity" means shutting down the one-legged lesbian consultancy think-tank to save a few quid, I'm all for it.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:14, archived)
but even if I do recognise that it takes money to make money, I recognise that government spending is the slowest, most painful and most detrimental way to supply that money to the people. So if "austerity" means shutting down the one-legged lesbian consultancy think-tank to save a few quid, I'm all for it.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:14, archived)
They often wear a prosthetic for the middle one in my experience.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:25, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:25, archived)
Nobody is shutting down straw men.
They're reducing the support for the disabled and the poor and using crypto-fascist rhetoric to lay the blame on foreigners.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:20, archived)
They're reducing the support for the disabled and the poor and using crypto-fascist rhetoric to lay the blame on foreigners.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:20, archived)
I'm sure when we've starved all the unemployable,
Vodafone will use their tax breaks to rebuild public libraries.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:22, archived)
Vodafone will use their tax breaks to rebuild public libraries.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:22, archived)
Why would we need them if the povos are dead, we'd have the money to buy our own books
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:27, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:27, archived)
We'll all be on zero hour, minimum wage contracts, by that point.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:34, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 13:34, archived)
I've never smoked in my life
not even as an impressionable teen.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 7:45, archived)
not even as an impressionable teen.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 7:45, archived)
that was pretty slow by recent standards
extra effort has been put in to rid us of this shambolic terror
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:08, archived)
extra effort has been put in to rid us of this shambolic terror
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:08, archived)
Contributing to chat threads, was he?
BAN HIM! BAN THEM ALL!
No wonder this place is dying.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:15, archived)
BAN HIM! BAN THEM ALL!
No wonder this place is dying.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:15, archived)
he's a loose cannon who has bullied up to two people off other sections of the site
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:16, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:16, archived)
They really ought to ban him on sight, reset the weak passwords of all the unused accounts, and introduce an irritating anti-robot scheme for logging in
That'll definitely get rid of him and not piss off all the regulars. Yessiree bob.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:31, archived)
That'll definitely get rid of him and not piss off all the regulars. Yessiree bob.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:31, archived)
don't pluralise that shit, the two /talk mods don't care. it's just the /ot one
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:34, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:34, archived)
Who spends every waking moment on here, now that regular qotw has been shut down it's their only purpose in life
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:37, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:37, archived)
We were being revoltingly complimentary about you on Other Internet
You're the only thing holding bthreeta together.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:37, archived)
You're the only thing holding bthreeta together.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:37, archived)
Alright.
I'm a terrible menace to the internet but I have lovely legs.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:50, archived)
I'm a terrible menace to the internet but I have lovely legs.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:50, archived)
because he's been banned and the mod that banned him is playing whack a mole with his new accounts
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:48, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:48, archived)
I did not.
I bullied a girl who used to be fat and has a big nose.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:51, archived)
I bullied a girl who used to be fat and has a big nose.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:51, archived)
I do think they should fuck off from /talk, ain't their patch, the fat unattractive cunt
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:57, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:57, archived)
You'd better not be fat-shaming, you can get banned for that you know.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:50, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:50, archived)
I thought b3th was mod for OT.
Do they have a "secret mod" too (other than "he who must not be named wot runs QOTW")?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:00, archived)
Do they have a "secret mod" too (other than "he who must not be named wot runs QOTW")?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:00, archived)
Sharing a "secret" that everybody knew was the reason I was banned I think.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:04, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:04, archived)
the /ot one is a weapons-grade bellend.
I like shambles. I like what he contributed to /talk before /ot was set up. He's an institution to this place, and hounding him out of a petty vendetta is exactly the sort of shitness that /ot has become famous for.
Offtopic mod, stop being a massive dick.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:26, archived)
I like shambles. I like what he contributed to /talk before /ot was set up. He's an institution to this place, and hounding him out of a petty vendetta is exactly the sort of shitness that /ot has become famous for.
Offtopic mod, stop being a massive dick.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:26, archived)
I'd feel the same way if you were being bullied by a mod, mongy
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:31, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:31, archived)
you're the bottom tho
so that I can grab your sideburns and ride you like a Grifter.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:38, archived)
so that I can grab your sideburns and ride you like a Grifter.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:38, archived)
It's actually more fun this way.
The threat of having to spend 30 seconds logging back in adds a certain frisson to the conversation.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:36, archived)
The threat of having to spend 30 seconds logging back in adds a certain frisson to the conversation.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:36, archived)
I don't know who you are, stranger,
but I like the cut of your jib.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:36, archived)
but I like the cut of your jib.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:36, archived)
Turn of phrase, innit?
Probably meant something in 1583, not so much these days.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:58, archived)
Probably meant something in 1583, not so much these days.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:58, archived)
you're resurrecting a joke from 1998
fucking hell manolith, that episode is old enough to get married.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:35, archived)
fucking hell manolith, that episode is old enough to get married.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:35, archived)
they're all bleary from the raping my wallet just suffered at the embassy
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:45, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:45, archived)
he didn't get it, i was providing the source
get off my fucking case, yeah
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:41, archived)
get off my fucking case, yeah
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:41, archived)
I do.
Those big boxes with the different varieties are actually rather nice.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:25, archived)
Those big boxes with the different varieties are actually rather nice.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:25, archived)
I never knew there were different varieties
unless you include Rafaello
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:35, archived)
unless you include Rafaello
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:35, archived)
he's the leader of the group,
transformed from the norm by the nuclear goop.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:37, archived)
transformed from the norm by the nuclear goop.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:37, archived)
raph wasn't the leader, but he was the best one
www.amazon.co.uk/Actually-Thirties-Teenage-Turtles-T-Shirt/dp/B00XYQ2H7G
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:34, archived)
www.amazon.co.uk/Actually-Thirties-Teenage-Turtles-T-Shirt/dp/B00XYQ2H7G
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:34, archived)
Good grief.
How Partners in Kryme got the TMNT gig, I'll never know.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:41, archived)
How Partners in Kryme got the TMNT gig, I'll never know.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:41, archived)
no, not the snooker tournament
a proper embassy with blokes with guns
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:12, archived)
a proper embassy with blokes with guns
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:12, archived)
does it have to be bear cock
or can it be any woodland phallus?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:42, archived)
or can it be any woodland phallus?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:42, archived)
"It looks like a dick and smells like death - I wonder if it's edible?"
Turns out it is. How desperate were people for food when that happened?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:02, archived)
Turns out it is. How desperate were people for food when that happened?
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:02, archived)
I read that in this voice
ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p01gdrnm.jpg
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:19, archived)
ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p01gdrnm.jpg
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:19, archived)
that's ok, I'll just hover awkwardly on the periphery, laughing along with jokes I don't really understand and trying, but failing to interject occasionally
it'll be just like real life social interactions
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:50, archived)
it'll be just like real life social interactions
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:50, archived)
I've got a registered appointment and everything
they'd better be punctual.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:41, archived)
they'd better be punctual.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:41, archived)
the last embassy I went to...
swelteringly hot, left all portable tech on the gate in the safekeeping of a very bored man, meeting room had very large photo of the queen keeping an eye on proceedings, hope this helps!
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:16, archived)
swelteringly hot, left all portable tech on the gate in the safekeeping of a very bored man, meeting room had very large photo of the queen keeping an eye on proceedings, hope this helps!
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:16, archived)
that's exactly the same as this one
except not hot, because I live in a civilised country.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:29, archived)
except not hot, because I live in a civilised country.
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:29, archived)
will those damn drums never be silent
*clutches head, staggers around on verandah*
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:55, archived)
*clutches head, staggers around on verandah*
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:55, archived)
I've got several but it's ok cos I signed up with emvee's email address
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:01, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:01, archived)
i do, but in my defence it was just so i could have sex with women who aren't my wife
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:42, archived)
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 10:42, archived)
now hear the word of the lord!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVoPG9HtYF8
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 1:11, archived)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVoPG9HtYF8
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 1:11, archived)
3 Yank captchas I had to do, I can't see them on my phone, wabk
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 22:24, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 22:24, archived)
You should Gaz mongychops
he deals with technical board questions.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 22:45, archived)
he deals with technical board questions.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 22:45, archived)
yeah
so basically, what happened is, back in 2008 when it all went to shit, China did exactly what economics said they should do, and massively borrowed to keep their industrial sector going, on the premise that 7 years later SEVEN YEARS LATER the economy of the rest of the world would have recovered sufficiently to get back to buying their shit and it would have all been ok. Except NO because we did a ideology instead, and ignored economic good sense in the name of SHAFTING THE POOR while blaming them for all this shit in the first place. Therefore, the Chinese are fucked because we're still fucked, which means we're fucked again. And now the Chinese are fucked because we're fucked and they're fucked and we're fucked, and the Media are still going to say it's all Socialism's fault.
FUCK.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:04, archived)
so basically, what happened is, back in 2008 when it all went to shit, China did exactly what economics said they should do, and massively borrowed to keep their industrial sector going, on the premise that 7 years later SEVEN YEARS LATER the economy of the rest of the world would have recovered sufficiently to get back to buying their shit and it would have all been ok. Except NO because we did a ideology instead, and ignored economic good sense in the name of SHAFTING THE POOR while blaming them for all this shit in the first place. Therefore, the Chinese are fucked because we're still fucked, which means we're fucked again. And now the Chinese are fucked because we're fucked and they're fucked and we're fucked, and the Media are still going to say it's all Socialism's fault.
FUCK.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:04, archived)
The Chinese can't be that fucked if they're all buying iPhones
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:07, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:07, archived)
well i think they'll be alright for what it's worth,
we're still fucked though, they'll just be like "hey look we have warehouses full of stuff Westerners can't afford any more, fill your boots folks"
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:08, archived)
we're still fucked though, they'll just be like "hey look we have warehouses full of stuff Westerners can't afford any more, fill your boots folks"
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:08, archived)
seriously though China will be fine,
they'll be like "what is the most sensible economic policy right now" and then they'll actually just do that, and the ideologically neo-liberal West will be fuckfuckfucked and China will become the next world Superpower and Donald Trump will be president and then there'll be World War 3 and I hope Jeremy Corbyn is PM and on China's side because China will win.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:16, archived)
they'll be like "what is the most sensible economic policy right now" and then they'll actually just do that, and the ideologically neo-liberal West will be fuckfuckfucked and China will become the next world Superpower and Donald Trump will be president and then there'll be World War 3 and I hope Jeremy Corbyn is PM and on China's side because China will win.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:16, archived)
China will win, Drimble,
because, fuck, just look at Trump's hair
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:21, archived)
because, fuck, just look at Trump's hair
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:21, archived)
also there are some frankly AMAZING videos on Youtube
of Chinese girls playing the violin and other feats
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:22, archived)
of Chinese girls playing the violin and other feats
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:22, archived)
Was talking to my mum the other day and she said about this TV program that was on showing Chinese teachers who came over to have a go in UK schools.
And they couldn't cope because Chinese kids are super brainy with a great work ethic and no need for classroom discipline, whereas over here we're all thick as shit lazy cunts aiming squarely for a lifetime of benefits and no incentive to do otherwise.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:37, archived)
And they couldn't cope because Chinese kids are super brainy with a great work ethic and no need for classroom discipline, whereas over here we're all thick as shit lazy cunts aiming squarely for a lifetime of benefits and no incentive to do otherwise.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:37, archived)
i'll tell you, our entire culture is based on a massive paradox.
We believe SO HARD in the meritocracy, that we don't think we need to actually DO anything to gain merit. We think we're born with it, and all we have to do is get on Britain's Got Talent and they will sort everyone out and everyone who doesn't win on that is obviously a failure anyway so who gives a shit, and we can just laugh at them and that's the telly and not real.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:41, archived)
We believe SO HARD in the meritocracy, that we don't think we need to actually DO anything to gain merit. We think we're born with it, and all we have to do is get on Britain's Got Talent and they will sort everyone out and everyone who doesn't win on that is obviously a failure anyway so who gives a shit, and we can just laugh at them and that's the telly and not real.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:41, archived)
shit.
yes. it is, isn't it. Well it's fucking true and it's no wonder that show was popular in China. They fucking get it.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:47, archived)
yes. it is, isn't it. Well it's fucking true and it's no wonder that show was popular in China. They fucking get it.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:47, archived)
I'm clicking them once, I'm clicking them twice
all MGT's posts are really quite right
global war is coming...to town! \o/
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:13, archived)
all MGT's posts are really quite right
global war is coming...to town! \o/
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 9:13, archived)
well call me racist if you like,
and i'll come out and say it straight if it helps:
NON-CHINESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING IDIOTS
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:36, archived)
and i'll come out and say it straight if it helps:
NON-CHINESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING IDIOTS
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 23:36, archived)
ERROR: An invalid argument was encountered
Window Title: Shut up MGT
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 6:52, archived)
Window Title: Shut up MGT
( , Tue 25 Aug 2015, 6:52, archived)
It's Black Friday, Black Friday
Gotta get down on Black Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend, weekend
Black Friday, Black Friday
Gettin' down on Black Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:24, archived)
7:45, we're drivin' on the highway
Cruisin' so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I got this, you got this
My friend is by my right, ay
I got this, you got this
Now you own it
Shitpants
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:27, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:32, archived)
do you know, MGT, I headed here immediately on catching the news to congratulate you, but you weren't here, no doubt stocking up on tinned sardines and firelighters, very sensible
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:53, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:53, archived)
listen to them that has the membering of it coz one day you'll have the membering of it
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 14:20, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 14:20, archived)
NTT (soz vlad)
everyone calm down. two hats is fine, he text me back. the fucking prick
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 17:57, archived)
everyone calm down. two hats is fine, he text me back. the fucking prick
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 17:57, archived)
that's OK mano but what is this about have we missed out on new icons yet again
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:03, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 21:03, archived)
Yes, and every time someone mentions them I get the theme tune stuck in my head for like a whole week.
you
utter
cunt
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 14:02, archived)
you
utter
cunt
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 14:02, archived)
I spent a summer driving diggers once, from big JCBs to little Pel Jobs
What's the best job you've had?
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:40, archived)
What's the best job you've had?
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:40, archived)
honestly? the one i have now
but who cares about that. where's two hats? i'm worried about him. he didn't reply to my text yesterday :( #prayfortwohats
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:55, archived)
but who cares about that. where's two hats? i'm worried about him. he didn't reply to my text yesterday :( #prayfortwohats
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:55, archived)
Is he dead again?
I've already mourned him once, I don't have the energy to do it again.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:01, archived)
I've already mourned him once, I don't have the energy to do it again.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:01, archived)
he keeps popping in and out of existence like a flickering lightbulb
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:04, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:04, archived)
I think we should set up a Two Hats appreciation day
maybe that will coax him out
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:19, archived)
maybe that will coax him out
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:19, archived)
It's okay
I copied most of the text from the manolith appreciation day
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:22, archived)
I copied most of the text from the manolith appreciation day
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:22, archived)
I did a summer job for a mate when I was a student. He was doing surveying for loft insulation but didn't have a driving license so I was his chauffeur for a couple of months.
Which basically consisted of me driving him round Plymouth whilst he dangled out of the window shouting at passing women.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:07, archived)
Which basically consisted of me driving him round Plymouth whilst he dangled out of the window shouting at passing women.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:07, archived)
well they call everything apps these days don't they,
it used to be "applications" but that's just too many damn letters
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:43, archived)
it used to be "applications" but that's just too many damn letters
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:43, archived)
I've only seen apps used to talk exclusively about software for mobile platforms
but I do love the image of a frumpy scottish housewife coding a mobile app on a yellowed plastic desktop computer that probably has a Turbo button.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
but I do love the image of a frumpy scottish housewife coding a mobile app on a yellowed plastic desktop computer that probably has a Turbo button.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:50, archived)
Amigas don't have turbo buttons.
I have worked on mobile apps. My next task is at the server end, though.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
I have worked on mobile apps. My next task is at the server end, though.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:52, archived)
are you some sort of powered saw?
i've always thought of you as a tool
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:12, archived)
i've always thought of you as a tool
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:12, archived)
Surely it's a contraction of "fandabidozer"?
Like the rest of us, Dozer was a big fan of the Elektronik Komik.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:45, archived)
Like the rest of us, Dozer was a big fan of the Elektronik Komik.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:45, archived)
because he's got a face like a shovel and he's constantly ridden by a fat bloke from Essex?
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:54, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:54, archived)
If "I sat in his bucket whilst his massive arm swung me around" sounds sexual to you,
then yes, very much so.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:29, archived)
then yes, very much so.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:29, archived)
Doggerland is much more fun;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland
The world's premier anonymous-al-fresco-sex theme park.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:43, archived)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland
The world's premier anonymous-al-fresco-sex theme park.
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:43, archived)
Don't need to
I was qualified to drive earth movers 15 years ago, and my old man keeps a knackered JCB on his plot
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:45, archived)
I was qualified to drive earth movers 15 years ago, and my old man keeps a knackered JCB on his plot
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 9:45, archived)
alright you fucking cunt bastard spastic horse slasher cunt twat fucking shitcunt fuckhead faggot
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:23, archived)
( , Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:23, archived)
This place will live on forever if we stop posting.
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34015307/eter9-social-network-learns-your-personality-so-it-can-post-as-you-when-youre-dead
So come on, admit it. How many of you are already dead?
Happy Sunday by the way.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:36, archived)
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34015307/eter9-social-network-learns-your-personality-so-it-can-post-as-you-when-youre-dead
So come on, admit it. How many of you are already dead?
Happy Sunday by the way.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:36, archived)
Alright mongy. Looks like God's punishing me for not going to church this morning with a biblical flood.
How's your Sunday going? Not that weekends have any meaning for you, obvs.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:55, archived)
How's your Sunday going? Not that weekends have any meaning for you, obvs.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:55, archived)
Don't even think I'll need to bother with a shower this morning, I'll get wetter if I just stand naked in the garden for a few seconds.
If the neighbours get upset it's their problem.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:03, archived)
If the neighbours get upset it's their problem.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:03, archived)
Did he suggest that? Pretty sure other people have come up with the idea before.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:01, archived)
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:01, archived)
hence him writing about it
he's an okay-good writer but i don't know if he's ever had an original idea, innit.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:43, archived)
he's an okay-good writer but i don't know if he's ever had an original idea, innit.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:43, archived)
really bad, not satisfyingly bad
best avoided, like star hyke.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:45, archived)
best avoided, like star hyke.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:45, archived)
i'll give that one last try before i die
but i never liked the characters or the situations. it wasn't quite as sickening as voyager.
i'm currently going through space 1999, it's pretty ace.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 19:28, archived)
but i never liked the characters or the situations. it wasn't quite as sickening as voyager.
i'm currently going through space 1999, it's pretty ace.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 19:28, archived)
i am
dead hungry, that is. anyone got any leftover curry they dont want please? thanks in advance. and a plain naan.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:12, archived)
dead hungry, that is. anyone got any leftover curry they dont want please? thanks in advance. and a plain naan.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:12, archived)
My mother in law brought round some samosas yesterday and I don't really feel like eating them. You're welcome to them.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:18, archived)
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:18, archived)
It's ok, he's from a different generation.
It's like when Prince Phillip talks about spear chuckers, everyone forgives him because he's so lovable and senile.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 22:36, archived)
It's like when Prince Phillip talks about spear chuckers, everyone forgives him because he's so lovable and senile.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 22:36, archived)
I'm at Dunstable Rocks.
I'm bucking the trend by not being a topless pikey with shit tattoos.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 15:26, archived)
I'm bucking the trend by not being a topless pikey with shit tattoos.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 15:26, archived)
That's exactly why I didn't go.
Garbage gig for garbage people.
You are now garbage. Soz.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:11, archived)
Garbage gig for garbage people.
You are now garbage. Soz.
( , Sun 23 Aug 2015, 11:11, archived)
Well, that was fun
Compared to being in West Wales with no telly and failing beer supplies.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:39, archived)
Compared to being in West Wales with no telly and failing beer supplies.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:39, archived)
Been working on the old car all day.
Football on the radio and then an evening of thunderstorms for entertainment. Not been a bad day really.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:46, archived)
Football on the radio and then an evening of thunderstorms for entertainment. Not been a bad day really.
( , Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:46, archived)
odetojoandkatniss.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/20130523-085000.jpg
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 23:35, archived)
I don't like new things
All this dobstep and new fangled games that come on discs, when I were a lad you had to carve 'gameboard out of 'log, and the pieces were the fingers ye' lost mekkinit
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 16:53, archived)
All this dobstep and new fangled games that come on discs, when I were a lad you had to carve 'gameboard out of 'log, and the pieces were the fingers ye' lost mekkinit
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 16:53, archived)
how are everyone's preparations for global financial meltdown going?
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 18:43, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 18:43, archived)
there'll always be porn,
whatever happens there'll always be porn
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 19:02, archived)
whatever happens there'll always be porn
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 19:02, archived)
I dunno, you wait years for one and then two come along in the same week
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 20:32, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 20:32, archived)
having spent the last year slavishly doing whatever some motormouthed ex-addict tells me to, I'm totally at a loss now he's gone into hiding
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 20:33, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 20:33, archived)
I have a greasy ponytail and a scraggy beard,
and I've squandered whatever meagre talents I may have had.
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 14:27, archived)
and I've squandered whatever meagre talents I may have had.
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 14:27, archived)
I suck because I managed to die in Hatoful Boyfriend - a game where you can't die unless you REALLY suck
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 15:55, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 15:55, archived)
4/7 :( all so-called news stories are shit, fuck everything
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34000507
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:45, archived)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34000507
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:45, archived)
might pop to london to look at some art today, might even purchase some
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:59, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:59, archived)
i like the bottom one, but more like this
fm-events-production.s3.amazonaws.com/image/840/large_cropped_HOV_SC_Hand_1060x357.png
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:04, archived)
fm-events-production.s3.amazonaws.com/image/840/large_cropped_HOV_SC_Hand_1060x357.png
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:04, archived)
40.media.tumblr.com/b8d423d21c66e71c42c9a6d99ee90e33/tumblr_msinzlE0zs1s50k48o1_400.jpg
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:08, archived)
i got 5, yo
those were the kind of bullshit stories that show up in 'facebook trending news' though
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:52, archived)
those were the kind of bullshit stories that show up in 'facebook trending news' though
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:52, archived)
welcome to the future of the bbc
also, select all the images with PIES ahahahahaha
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:53, archived)
also, select all the images with PIES ahahahahaha
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:53, archived)
i think i saw them on reddit
which means the bbc is now buzzfeed or something
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:54, archived)
which means the bbc is now buzzfeed or something
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:54, archived)
This man slashed a horse. What happened next will melt your heart.
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:08, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:08, archived)
A fat bird got called a 'fat bird': you'll love her perfect response.
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:09, archived)
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 12:09, archived)
ahahaha fat
road.cc/content/news/161155-womans-blog-about-box-hill-heckling-attracts-hundreds-supportive-comments
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 13:40, archived)
road.cc/content/news/161155-womans-blog-about-box-hill-heckling-attracts-hundreds-supportive-comments
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 13:40, archived)
5/7
and I actually knew a couple of the answers that I got right, which never happens
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:54, archived)
and I actually knew a couple of the answers that I got right, which never happens
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:54, archived)
question to both of the above contestants
was it hamlet and pringles? I bet it was those ones
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:56, archived)
was it hamlet and pringles? I bet it was those ones
( , Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:56, archived)
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