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This is a link post UKIP nonsense
just so much material to identify UKIP as a substandard mental status from this one clip.

Bring on the clowns!

Dog panting is an added bonus.
 (hoppitygoestotown The temporal displacement occurred exactly, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 23:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Childhood trauma
She clearly had a bad experience watching Terrahawks as a child and now equates negroids with zeroids, placing herself in the role of persecuted space witch Zelda (I can see the resemblance).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZC9B0YJ8W8
 (GoldenAppel Quadrospazzed on a life-glug, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 0:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post How did the Express headline writers deal with this one?
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/557397/Gypsy-grandad-buried-next-to-Muslim-grave-creates-family-war

Gypsies Muslims Gypsies Muslims Gypsies Head Muslims Explodes
 (I helped save b3ta! antmulder Flick your icefloss, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 1:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks to free speech
we can easily spot all the thick selfish fuckers before they get chance to do any real damage.
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 11:05, , Reply)
This is a link post live webcasting demonstration
David Kassan, access via a $5 kickstarter donation.
A pretty good deal if you're interested, he's a fantastic artist.
 (I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 23:29, , Reply)
This is a link post Kurds blowing up a car bomb
something something one whey street
(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Haha... No whey joke is now in head.
Unless you edit ;)
Also, fuck ISIL/ISIS
 (mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Such hate for Truvativ...

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 23:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post That was 'their' story
*adjusts tin foil chapéu*
 (Spin Its a thing., Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Simply beautiful
There are 43 less dead, and 280 less maimed men, women and children
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 23:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nice death of those nazi scum
A-10 Hits Taliban In Treeline Some ace footage of these ultra-conservative fascist cunts taken out

Some not so ace footage of the cuntish Taliban attacking other muslims whilst they are worshiping in a mosque www.funker530.com/video-of-suicide-bomber-that-killed-20-at-mosque/ because they are utter cunts
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 1:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Something about that sound
Always brings me out in goosebumps
 (I helped save b3ta! parsons* *restrictions apply, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 6:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post God is Great?
I did't see God in that Mosque - I just saw men.
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 10:56, , Reply)
This is a link post They say "Empty vessels make the most sound", but that's not always a bad thing. I made this!
This is the beer barrel that would not die.

(Filmed in Britain's oldest brewery, making beer since 1550, now ghosts and soon luxury flats)

Cheers.
(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post rat inside?

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post I did wonder if there was something inside, yes.

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post ghost of a rat?
the possibilities!
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Whaa
Spooky
 (Sherbs, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Barrel keg
 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 1:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, I sit corrected. I must have been thinking of that song.

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 7:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post
keg cask. Or kilderkin to be correct (an 18gallon cask)
A keg is a pressurised vessel and a barrel is both a term of volume (36gallons) and also a name for a cask of that size.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeyboyalpha jumping on the bandwagon since, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 10:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post Needs more Donk

(Colostomy Bag Explosion Lubing the gears of commercialism, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 9:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post
So glad this local employer is finally disappearing and we are getting more luxury flats - it's a nightmare for buy to let landlords to find anything suitable these days...
 (strongp, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 17:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Welllll, there's a story....
because the developers (Chinese state-owned) have failed to fulfill the Cultural Legacy side of the deal - which is why I was there filming/archiving the place before it got demolished - Wandsworth Council's man in the planning dept., who thinks there's more to life than luxury flats, has withdrawn the re-development deal for the whole project, thereby swizzing the developers out of £600m. He's a hero, though it's a shame for anyone looking forward to a grandstand view of the junction of the South Circular and Garrett Lane, and the lovely new TK Maxx.
 (I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 19:47, , Reply)
This is a link post Matt cartoon takes piss out of Daily Telegraph / HSBC / editorial independence story
being the link to his latest efforts, obviously there will be a different cartoon on subsequent days
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I buy the Telegraph on Saturdays as a know-your-enemy exercise, and for the general knowledge crossword
so I was surprised to see that. But also News stories about how the Times and the Guardian had been influenced editorially by their major advertisers.

All a bit pathetic really.
 (I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post It used to be a great paper.
Its 'hard' news coverage, reportage of stuff that was actually happening, in the Gradgrindian sense, was unrivalled by absolutely no one. Ok, you never liked the editorial, comment or opinion stuff. Fair enough. But they used to never confuse reportage with editorialising. Now it is utter toilet. Thin, weak and feeble. This has happened in the last four to five years. It's a tragedy for British media. I used to buy it literally daily. I can count on two hands the number of times I've bought it in the last two years. But pissflaps likes the cricket coverage.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yep, I agree about its coverage of news.

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 10:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post RIS?
I've been out of the loop for a few days due to work.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post This will de-ris it
but is very dull www.b3ta.com/links/Peter_Obourne_explains_why_the_Telegraph_a_once_respectable_paper_is_now_utter_dogshit
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Twitter GC,
but The Sunday Sport's response was amusing
twitter.com/thesundaysport/status/569150330329571329
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hah, is that paper still printed?

(mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Look, I was pissed when I did it, ok?

(mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't you get annoyed when the Today programme gives away your cartoon every morning in its papers review?
Personally I find the thought of Telegraph readers hating the BBC even more for it quite arousing.
 (I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 7:28, , Reply)
This is a link post Internal Security

(chompedhomas, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Star Warz lolz.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post EXTERMINATE!!!11

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:32, , Reply)
This is a link post World's top arms importers/exporters.
Interactive thingy.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Didn't realise russia exported so much to india

(hieronymus bosch pcmechanic 4ver in ar harts, goodnite sweet angle, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post India is the reason
that Russia has a fighter jet industry worthy of the name. They've been buying Sukhois for years and are jointly funding development of this:


 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's very small.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post I bet you say that to all the boys

(I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Usually to the ones who are far away.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post On the end
Of your mile long imaginary cock.

"tweaks cheek"
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post This may have skewed the figures a bit for that year:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Vikramaditya
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post After Independence and partition... The Sneaky fucking Russians saw India
As a prime bit of land it could get back at the West
 (mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post I love my arms, you won't see me exporting them to some foreign body.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post Largest supplier to the Saudi regime!
Woo! We're number one! We're number one!
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post You mean you've been lying all this time in saying that if America just disarmed we would have a Utopia with flowers and rainbows?
I feel awful gullible.
 (I helped save b3ta! gunmetal drove slowly in the passing lane on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post We're arming Belgium!
Are we insane!
!
 (I helped save b3ta! CockGripShaftingSleeve, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 11:22, , Reply)
This is a link post Frozen Blood Test scene I made this!

(leehardcastle, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post "A sublime piece of cinema" - Fuzzy Plissken.

(I helped save b3ta! Jabberwoc misses D.R. and Quinch, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Excellent
is the Pingu version still viewable?
 (GforGermany looks like some sort of retaining plunger, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahahahaha!
That's fucking brilliant.
 (I helped save b3ta! VicJameson : fucking internet virgins since, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ban this sick filth!

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha!
top mash up
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Splattercine.
Woo!
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post *trademarks*

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post +1

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Brilliant!

(I helped save b3ta! 2Pints , at the third stroke, it will be, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do you want to build a zombie?

(I helped save b3ta! PooPants, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why?
Got a fresh dead body in the cellar handy?
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post mazing

(dirk speedrift Sit doon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Cracking.

(I helped save b3ta! - D - SharkTrousers, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Horrifying
As always :D
 (I helped save b3ta! William MakesBeer poetman.co.uk, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post heh, excellent stuff
i've no idea who the characters are though.
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post frozen

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 22:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeah it is a bit chilly eh?
parky infact
 (I helped save b3ta! PooPants, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 2:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post You sir are a legend!

(I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 11:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha!
Fuckin' ace :)
 (I helped save b3ta! routine has perfected burgers, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 12:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Brilliant! Utterly brilliant!

(SpangoTheWonderBadger is brewing beer, Mon 23 Feb 2015, 9:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post beautiful

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Sat 7 Mar 2015, 9:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh man, that's bloody awesome.
Nice.
 (_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_ =o.o=, Sat 7 Mar 2015, 17:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm all of bubble gum...
And full of compliments. I loved the video. Saw this the other day and didn't realize you posted it here first. Good job!
 (giveupned, Wed 11 Mar 2015, 22:30, , Reply)
This is a link post Into printed boards and all that new fangled electronics?
Then enjoy this 1969 Tektronic film (not a video, 16mm film) about printed circuits boards.

What next? Telephones with buttons?

Getoutofhere! "turns dial"
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post fucking flash

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 18:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Lucky Flash?

(smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Amazing the things you can do in a Labra Tory

(Bob the Builder killed Captain Alex, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Just got a Philips PM3206 15Mhz analogue oscilloscope from 1986ish.
Strangely the wife was not that impressed.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:53, , Reply)
This is a link post Kinect Self-Awareness Hack

(I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post :o)

(I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nicely.

(I helped save b3ta! Jabberwoc misses D.R. and Quinch, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post I liked the bit where it killed all the cats in the world.
Didn't like it that we all had to die too :-(
 (I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't give a shit if some saddo steals my pictures and passes them off as their own
If they are not making commercial use or selling them, I'm not that bothered. On the other hand, what would really piss me off is someone uploading shite and put my name on it.

Amateur snappers seem to get really bent out of shape over what they call "image theft", but in my book it only amounts to theft if they are being used commercially and hence owe me money.
 (I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post *masturbates over notoolsleftovernight's photos*
Oof!
 (I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post You wouldn't be the first I'm sure

(I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Haha, fucking hell
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive."
 (I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post I cant work out who is more insane?
The crazy lady or the guy who goes to such efforts to expose the fraud ,you can almost hear the 'thump.thump,thump...' sound of him knocking one out at every paragraph.
 (Spin Its a thing., Sun 22 Feb 2015, 0:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well, THAT is a f'k'n mess
It made me feel a bit bad. I steal photos all the time. Everyday. But I do not watermark them nor claim them as my own, just steal them and make them do unintended things. For fun.

I also see my own photographs all over the place on other peoples' sites.

These people Stacy and Bill, are demented and apparently perfect for each other.

Can you imagine carrying an oversized Louis Vuitton shopping bag and seeking some random somebody's Escalade in a parking lot to be photographed in front of to pretend is one's own to project an image of unearned wealth out of reach? Why else do that? Then bang on about how many pairs of expensive imaginary shoes you own, and isn't everybody reading just so jealous? All coming from photographers who must steal photos to promote themselves. I did not realize how many people out there are more toxic and damaged than my little sister.
 (I helped save b3ta! kombu dashi, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 1:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm guessing he was later lynched in the town square.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not quite my tempo

(hieronymus bosch pcmechanic 4ver in ar harts, goodnite sweet angle, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is better than the original
because you see more jugs.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Was he rushing or dragging?

(I helped save b3ta! Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post paradiddling
more like
 (I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Neither, i think he was just dying on his arse.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post My bathroom sounds like this most mornings...

(I helped save b3ta! Jabberwoc misses D.R. and Quinch, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:57, , Reply)
This is a link post Placebo* - Balek.
*The Belgian Placebo, not the annoying Placebo from England with the frontman you want to hit with a shitty stick.
(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like this

I liked Placebo to begin with - especially Without You I'm Nothing. Went off them and checked out their new stuff recently and it's all happy :o(
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, i think the English Placebo went wrong when the individuals who make up the band decided to form a band.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post they're not english.
they met at an international school in europe.
 (I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post STILL SHIT.
Formed in London too.

STILL SHIT.
 (I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Placebo are quite good tbf.
Average albums with some fucking gems in them.
 (mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post me too
both.
this was a good one www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQngnnHE_0
 (I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post You are both dead to me.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Someone stop that album cover!
It's getting away!
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post It is moving pretty slowly though
probably due to Trappist beer
 (GforGermany looks like some sort of retaining plunger, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Reminds me of
James Bond getting away very slowly
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Liking this
Just checked 'Aria'. Sounding good.
 (Sherbs, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:39, , Reply)
This is a link post THE Christian SCIENCE Monitor
duh
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post On the subject of bonkers religions,
Scientology have set up a reputation management Twitter feed and are banging on about a documentary maker using fake ants*.

twitter.com/FreedomEthics

(* Before anyone else says it - "Fants".)
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ants, eh?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIiMhSvtrGc
 (GforGermany looks like some sort of retaining plunger, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Strewth!
They're propper butthurt about that aren't they youtube.com/watch?v=vfI54h4Jhdk
 (I helped save b3ta! LP, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post missing 'lizard'
christiansciencemonitorlizard.bandcamp.com/
 (I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post I read a few articles.
It seems a pretty decent news site.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Better than most.
Don't let the weird name throw you off.
 (Rogue Sausage, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 7:18, , Reply)
This is a link post I demand to have some booze!

5 races where you can get pissed on the move.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 11:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd have to be pissed just to contemplate doing a marathon.

(I helped save b3ta! VicJameson : fucking internet virgins since, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 11:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Good point

Running goes against pretty much everything I stand for, which, generally, is sitting down.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post I used to run regularly
now not so much, but when I did I would always have a couple of beers before, on the odd occasions that I didn't, I ran slower and less far.
 (sithemong, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post From the police

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm very much enjoying this whole sentence.
You'll probably appreciate this
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Amen.
I don't get running and I don't get swimming, which is slower and wetter. Both seem to involve using a lot of energy to end up at the same place you started from.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Marathons seem stupid

(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 21:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Brunel University "beer race"
There used to be an annual 'beer race' (I think it got banned in the late 1980's) where groups of students tied together three-legged-race style would run around a four mile course including about 15 pubs drinking a minimum of half a pint in each one. Watching competitors stagger to the finish line was probably more fun than taking part.
 (I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post I did something similar when starting at Bournemouth

I think we gave up on the three-legged bit pretty early on though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:55, , Reply)
This is a link post George Osborne talks about inheritance tax.
With a cheeky glint in his eye. He's been very quiet recently.
(felixcoen, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 10:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post What he is talking about is known as
a deed of variation. It's what the Milliband brothers have used to avoid paying inheritance tax on their parents property. Capital gains tax would still apply, but it's an effective and legal means of cutting a future tax bill. Or in other words it's tax avoidance.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 11:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do you think it's enough to call Ed a hippocrate?

(I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 11:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Actually no. It's worse than that.
What I resent about it is he is being very disingenuous and dishonest about it. He says that he paid tax on what he inherited and that's that. But the fact remains he went out of his way to make an arrangement that significantly reduced the amount of tax he was liable for. The guardian even found an accountant from KPMG or PWC or one of the big five to write an article to say that probably didn't save any money. All bollocks. Why pay an accountant and a lawyer to make the arrangement then? What's the point of that? Why not just let probate take its course? Boris Johnson made public his tax returns when Ken Livingstone suggested he was a tax dodger, Ed Milliband should publish his.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 11:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post But all of it was legal?
Who on earth wants to pay as much tax as possible? This is why I frown at people who get all flustered with corporations and people who use tax loop holes, they are just being careful with their finances.

I should probably watch the link at this stage
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, all legal.
I agree with you up to a point. I think what Starbucks did, and what eBay, Amazon, Google, Apple and many others do is pretty disgusting and although technically legal, transparently dishonest.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post "Who on earth wants to pay as much tax as possible?"
Probably not the right time to mention that I personally make what would be on a global scale considered to be a lot of money. I went to a tax planning seminar once (it was at a business meeting I was attending anyway) and this chap was going through all the mechanisms available to save paying tax. I pointed out that I felt that paying my dues to society was what a true citizen should do; I thought I was going to be lynched as a pinko troublemaker!

A harsher analysis by some like minded colleagues determined that up to 50% most of us would be happy to pay up, but once more than half of what you work for goes to the state, most high earners begin to feel resentful.

The interesting thing is that at either end of the earnings spectrum the same argument ensues, which revolves around 'to each according to his need, from each according to his ability'. Many look at avoiders and evaders at the top and think they are sponging off society, many also look at 'benefit scroungers' and think the same thing.

There may therefore be people across the whole spectrum who take offence at people who have a sense of entitlement from society, without a sense of responsibility to look after it.
 (I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post "..without a sense of responsibility to look after it."
Is the gray area. I'm not particularly fond of the super rich moaning about their wealth because ultimately I find it pretty distasteful some people get distracted in their lives of luxory when so many humans around them find the entire experience a very hard slog.

It would be much easier if everything was laid open without holes for people to hide their trinkets and gold coins in, so we could either agree with it or disagree with our contributions for the welfare of the whole herd.
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post A sense of entitlement does seem pretty universal.
People don't get paid according to how useful their work is to society, and it's certainly not a meritocracy. However, few people would admit that they don't deserve all their stuff or that their work is ultimately selfish.

Presumably that mentality goes all the way to the top.

At least there can be some logic to taxation. There seems to be very little to wages.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post On the contrary, there is a very simple logic to wages: charge what people will pay.
Unfortunately this only counts if someone else is paying you. If you are deciding for yourself what you should be paid, the sky is indeed no longer the limit.

Chief execs get together and form pay committees to decide what they are worth, then as another round of senior exec pay excess occurs, the rot spreads to the state sector where execs start talking about 'comparable salaries' and we end up with town council leaders, NHS managers, civil servants being paid the same as private sector chiefs.

The ultimate though are the people who literally print money. The banking sector no longer lends out what it has, it lends out for interest about 10 times or more than what it has - they are literally making money and paying each other ridiculous bonuses to lend the money out, then charging fees for arranging of lending out money they don't have in the first place, topped off by a bonus for thinking it all up.

I like to think I've worked hard for most of my life; 16 years of training, 120 hour regular working weeks with studying for exams on top, and now being paid pretty well. I still earn a fraction of what those cunts do though!
 (I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Many of the folks who figure that "lending" stuff out are not bankers. They are mathmaticians, software engineers etc.
Where I work we have problems recruiting people because the banks offer to pay them a fortune. We simply can't compete.
 (I helped save b3ta! JamTallons, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post You think you've worked hard
My dad was down pit for 22 hours a day
 (I helped save b3ta! $$ ✅, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ah yes. And you lived in a shoebox in the middle of the motorway I presume?
I said that I worked hard, not my dad. My father was an engineer who worked on the shop floor at Leyland Truck and Bus, his father was a garage mechanic. On my mum's side mainly low rank soldiers and indeed a grandfather who spent many years down the pits in Nottighamshire!
 (I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes legal,
but not a good position from which to climb on to your high horse.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post The point is not so much legality as morality
A 'loop hole' tax avoidance scheme means that a person or business has dodged paying tax that the government intended that they should pay, by using a tax rule for a purpose that it was not intended. Quite legal it is true, but still cheating. Legal cheating but cheating nonetheless.
 (I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh for God's sake
Is it in the rules? Yes. Therefore it isn't cheating.

If the rules are wrong then maybe that's where the focus should be, but I don't see why anyone should have a moral obligation to pay more tax than what is due - be they in a position of public office or not.


Holy shit, I just defended Ed Milliband. I think I need a stiff drink.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post
drink cock.
 (I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post There's rules and there's flaws in a system.
Some of the dodges remind me a bit of hacking. Any system with that much beurocracy is going to have a lot of unintended exploits.

People are employed to find loopholes in a system, and then time and money have to be spent fixing those loopholes.

The tax system is like shit code.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post I frown at people who think that corporations cant act ethically
My wife's extended family owns a large business. They are extremely careful about not avoiding taxes because
a) most of them think they should pay a fair share and
b) should they be found out the bad publicity would do them a lot of harm
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post The point is tax loopholes are only open to the super rich
If you've ever been self employed you'll know, you can't avoid tax.
 (I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Tax loopholes are open to everyone who pays tax
Put your savings into tax-avoiding ISA's
Put as much of your income into a pension scheme as you can.....but make sure it is one that returns all your fund to your beneficiaries (inheritance tax exempt ) if you die before retiring (company pension schemes often dont ).
Buy the most expensive house you can afford ( CGT exempt when you sell it )
 (I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post You've missed the point
Putting money into an ISA or pension scheme is the INTENDED function of those tax breaks, they are not 'loopholes'.

A tax avoidance scheme uses *unintentional* loopholes in tax law, and hence they are in effect cheating the system because the government did not intend that they be excused tax.
 (I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post There's no such thing as "unintended"
All the loopholes were put in the tax laws deliberately by the polititions etc to benefit their pals.....not supposed to be used by the others.
It's like all the software flaws are put there deliberately to allow govt intrusions .....not meant to be used by hackers.
"Security updates " do 2 jobs, 1) plug the flaw being used by hackers and 2) open up a brand new flaw for govt intrusions
 (I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 17:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes and no. This is a tinfoil territory.

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Seriously?
Tax law is ferociously complicated and corporate tax law is complexity squared. Add to that the fact that the resources of tax dodgers are far in excess of what is available to the legislators, it comes as no surprise that loopholes can always be found. Were the loopholes put there intentionally? It is a bit like Bertrand Russell's teapot, there is no way of disproving it, however it is somewhat unlikely. Government departments are disorganised and dysfunctional and at best they struggle to perform the tasks they are allocated, adding some tinfoil hat hidden agenda conspiracy would be utterly impractical.
 (I helped save b3ta! notoolsovernight you're all luvvly an' 'orrible, Sun 22 Feb 2015, 15:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post You sound like Milliband's spokesperson.
That's another one of the lies spouted around this subject. A deed of variation is the perfect example of what utter bullshit that is. All you need is to own a property and write a will and you can have the beneficiaries of your will dodge tax too.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post "all you need is to own a propety"
lol
 (I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 15:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ok, point taken
but property ownership doesn't make someone super rich. I own a flat in London and I don't really have a pot to piss in. If I'd stuck to renting I'd have a better car, nicer clothes and just more clothes, and I'd be much better travelled, but it seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post do you get to pay 0% tax like google, starbucks, amazon etc?

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post no but you'd get some old bitch come to inspect the property every 3 months
and moan at you for committing the heinous crime of putting up a poster using Blu Tac!

My mortgage repayments are cheaper than if I rented a property of a similar size. In fact I'd be lucky to afford flat in one of the more "entertaining" areas of my town
 (I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Sat 21 Feb 2015, 20:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Are you saying that anyone who owns a property is super rich?

(eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 16:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yay! I'm super rich!
*Thumbs nose at plebs*
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 19:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Never had someone give you a better price for a job for cash?
You reckon they're going to pay tax on that?
 (I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 14:09, , Reply)
This is a link post I'm gonna stick my foot right up you' ass
RL Burnside's "The Criminal Inside Me"
(m.auron, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 7:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Always found something darkly amusing in Burnside's defence of the murder he commited:
"I didn't mean to kill nobody. I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head and two times in the chest. Him dying was between him and the Lord."
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This is a normal post some rappers should take notice

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This is a link post Teaching Thai kids how to speak Nottingham I made this!

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This is a normal post I hope they gave their consent for you putting them on the web.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 10:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post This in the internet, Mr Flaps. Consent ain't got nothing to do with it.

(I helped save b3ta! JamTallons, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Stop being so reasonable.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 21 Feb 2015, 12:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post You forgot
"Get out of Sneinton and give me your phone and wallet immediately or you're done for."
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This is a link post Aptly named building...

(I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Sat 21 Feb 2015, 0:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Strong winds of dust will gust through that place when they run out of oil
And by god we will laugh a lot
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This is a normal post Cool smoke though

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