
there's something "Soundcard demo MIDI file" about it too
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:19, Reply)

IT'S MUTHAFUCKIN PANCAKE DAY. here's my fave pancake song.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:42, Reply)

actually got this link off david "david stevenson" stevenson. interesting innit.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:33, Reply)

The thoughts of eating horse meat is putting me off my Tesco Spag-bol lunch, which is quite delicious.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:33, Reply)

But by doing the maths my 245hp car is 4410 manpowers! :)
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:32, Reply)

Let me guess. One of: Mitsubishi Impreza, Subaru or old BMW 330 type?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:36, Reply)

Not that type of car person. I like Old yank stuff and tinkering.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:53, Reply)

I'm not one of these Ford or Chevy only types. I currently Drive a 94 Mustang GT, Not a classic I know but was cheap and the Old Chyrsler New Yorker had just gone bang. The styling is the main thing for me, some of the older cars are like pieces of art. Muscle cars are great for their Simplicity yet awe inspiring performance. I like to be able to work on my own cars and American ones are nice and easy to do that on. So basically a whole mash up of these reasons. I'd Love a 67 Barracuda Fastback if money was no object or an AMC Gremlin. It's just finding them thats the difficult part.
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Every other country's looks like monopoly money.
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it looks the reverse to me. as you guys have all the pretty colours and pictures.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:31, Reply)

www.banknotes.com/ien203.htm
Plastic banknotes, featuring Space Shuttle!
Also, unusual vertical orientation.
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( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:42, Reply)

the Queen explicitly derives her authority to reign directly from God and was crowned in a Christian ceremony.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:25, Reply)

technically all 'subjects' of 'her majesty' are like, slaves, and totally have to do everything she says. it's an outrage.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:39, Reply)

what kind of theocracy legalises gay marriage? it's a bloody outrage i tell you.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:49, Reply)

on account of the clash with canon law that would happen otherwise.
And the Byzantine Empire.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:52, Reply)

that out of the UK's 8 Muslim MPs, only one voted against the measure. Two abstained, and five voted in favour.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:57, Reply)

I take your point. In reality, though, it's not. Someone might swear on a Bible whilst being sworn in as a parking attendant, but it doesn't mean they derive their authority from God and the local council is thereby a theocracy.
The Queen is a special case because of all the 'Defender of the Faith' guff and being head of her own Church, of course, but still, I can't imagine her claiming her authority to rule 'derives directly from God'. Can't imagine anyone has tried that line with any seriousness since the Stuarts.
I did once know a man who claimed to believe in the Divine Right of Kings, but he was a nutcase. Think he later joined UKIP...
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:42, Reply)

although it was derived from a line in the Bible so a lot of Christians still believe it.
Oh we also have the Lords Spiritual (Church of England Bishops in the House of Lords) which makes us the only country other than Iran to explicitly include religious leaders in the legislative assembly. Or so I heard.
The "In God We Trust" thing in the states is an odd one though, because their State is very much more secular than ours, technically. They aren't even allowed religious observances in state run schools (a policy which is sometimes enforced with an absurd level of fervour). But the Federal Reserve isn't actually part of the government, but a sort of private company. Actually the way the whole outfit works is so odd that, frankly, God help them.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:50, Reply)

In the UK there's an enormous detritus of tradition and convention which is sometimes pretty benign (things like the Monarch being anointed before Coronation) and sometimes quite worrying (like the Bishops in the upper chamber). Most people don't worry about it most of the time.
In America, on the other hand, they had Founding Fathers who set up a secular state, and were pretty unequivocal about that (Treaty of Tripoli, for example), but a population many of whom are passionately fighting to make it less so.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:04, Reply)

there are only 25 of them, far fewer than Tory hereditary peers (49), and if they were in proportion to the number of regular churchgoers we'd have about a hundred.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:09, Reply)

Especially "night time/day time"
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:55, Reply)

This scares the living daylights out of my 2 year old.
Anyone else watch Numberjacks with their children? Are they scared? Are you scared? The Puzzler scares me.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:33, Reply)

Well, they aren't my kids and we aren't watching Spooky Spoon, i tend to be tying them up whilst wearing a mask made from the flesh of my last victim.
Still, all those things considered they're quite similar situations.
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I was browsing the madness that is 4chan last night (with my 2 year old)...now that is an elaborate paedo ploy to lure kids
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:37, Reply)

It's like a seedy pub down a back alley with a load of run down choppers parked outside.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:44, Reply)

it is amazing what crap they make for youngsters now.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:56, Reply)

As I wanted to comment on the black and white video someone posted a while back. but you had to wait a week before you can actually talk and now I cant remember which video it was!
Hello everyone!
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:58, Reply)

You haven't been exposed to the silly swearing or tasteless sex gags yet though. Everyone's being remarkably polite!
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:43, Reply)

I have almost had to be a counsellor to my three year old over the problem blob and he had a three week period of waking up in terror and refusing to sleep with anything green visible in the room.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:34, Reply)

The Problem Blob a green blob with a single eye on the tip of his long tongue who spits out lumps of green slime that cause anything they touch to suffer from a particular problem. He is usually found in dark corners and doesn’t speak, only heaving and spluttering.
Ahhhh teh fear
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:43, Reply)

It would be more fun if you a) got involved or b) posted a link to that Durex ad you directed:
vimeo.com/52961994
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:29, Reply)

just gonna slop this in here.
Dunno about you sluts, but i would.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:29, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/links/A_Mexican_Dude_Dressed_Like_Wolverine_Saves_People_From_Burning_Tower
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:33, Reply)

I posted the Pancakes Day vid without noticing it had been linked already (despite being on the same page, wally). So here's something from another fine kids show that may well be posted every Gymnasium Day from now on.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:02, Reply)

Like Horrible Histories. I suggest you watch some :)
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:36, Reply)

I don't watch much TV these days, spare the odd sciency programme. I'm old, boring and prefer to watch porn on my computer.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:43, Reply)

Serafinowicz is on that sketch show every week and Horrible Histories has material from Steve Punt, David Baddiel and The LEague of Gentlemen. There's another one sketch show with David Armand and MArcus Brigstocke. Good stuff.
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with a box a kleenex and some sudocrem next to your laptop.
ADMIT IT!!!!
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:42, Reply)

And you're surprised to find yourself addressing one of us. And besides, it's vaseline.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:02, Reply)

Should lead to anyone who refused to work for nothing and had their benefits stopped getting it all back. That is of course if they find out about it from whatever hostel or cardboard box they now live in.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:44, Reply)

I wasn't even allowed to work for free. Well, not for a company that could be "reasonably expecte4d" to pay its staff. I did do voluntary work for a charity, but there were rules about how many hours you were allowed to do.
One time at a careers fair I spoke to a man about how to get a job in finance (because that's apparently what people with science degrees are expected to do), and the cheeky cunt actually said I should expect for free for a year! For a BANK!
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:54, Reply)

I love that, they make out they're doing you a favour and you should be grateful for the 'opportunity' too.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:55, Reply)

work for the most profitable industry on the planet for nothing for a year, with not even any benefits to live on, that would work.
I guess Mummy and Daddy are supposed to pay your way. Class mobility. Great.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:02, Reply)

widely used in the industry as a 'rite of passage'
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:47, Reply)

I thought they were usually done during a degree course, not after.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:49, Reply)

and jobs are about leaning how to do the actual job... the amount of post graduates that i have interviewed who think they could literally walk in and work, is incredible, some genuinely think the degree they have means they can do whatever "job" they want.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:56, Reply)

Aside from doing a (very) basic home learning course, I taught myself everything about the job I do now. It wasn't as easy as you think, and I had to do a load of free work over many months outside of a normal 40 hour a week shift job, just to bolster my skills and experience enough to warrant landing a full-time position. I still work stoopid hours, but at least I love what I do.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:10, Reply)

someone please explain the situation to my parents.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:11, Reply)

Lots of companies do internships for low pay. I was a runner at a place in Soho for a year and was basically a slave. .
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:55, Reply)

is terrible for the government.
No, I won't be quiet. Slavery is terrible wherever it happens, and just because you shut up and put up doesn't change that.
Anyway, out of curiosity, how did you live?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:57, Reply)

Grow up! You bring the tedious greedy bankers and class bulls*hit up all the time and this has got nothing to do with it. F*cking tedious.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:59, Reply)

I am immature because I think slavery is unacceptable.
Ok.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:04, Reply)

you compare a workfare (as opposed to welfare) scheme to slavery. beyond hyperbole, just utterly fatuous really. do you actually know what the reality of slavery was?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:00, Reply)

His words, not mine.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:04, Reply)

you are using it as you wallow in your self-righteous poltical indignation. it's pretty fucking sick to compare low wages to slavery and shows profound ignorance. it's real SWP bullshit.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:19, Reply)

"The Tory's Back to Work Programme is ruled to be Forced Labour and Slavery"
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:26, Reply)

read the ruling. it's been ruled unlawful. largely down to our old friend the HRA as derived from the ECHR. the judge did not describe it as forced labour and certainly not as slavery. that's just SWP bullshit and lies.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:39, Reply)

ok how about www.b3ta.com/links/943780
"We did outlaw slavery in this country, right?"
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:43, Reply)

would you like to borrow my Amistad DVD?* you really seem to have a great deal of difficulty understanding the true meaning of a very fucking simple word.
*oh, i don't have that DVD. how about Watership Down?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:56, Reply)

that three people compared unpaid work to slavery before I did, and somehow I'm the only one to be called immature for repeating it, in a direct reply, the point of which is to call out the fallacy of the argument, "I had to do it, therefore it's fine".
I didn't even make the comparison myself. Three other people did and got away with it.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:03, Reply)

get used to it, slave. now go and make me a sandwich.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:35, Reply)

Who compared what now to what now?
And we all know what slavery was like, we watched Django Unchained
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:17, Reply)

From about the age of 14 upwards. How did I afford it? I lived with my folks (as you would expect at that age) and I had a weekend paper round which paid for my travel (which was £1.20 a day to get to anywhere in London).
This enabled me to have a much better CV than my peers which I began looking for work, so I got a better salary.
An internship or work experience is NOT the same as slavery. Slaves have no choice or say in the matter and there is a massive massive distinction.
Saying the two are the same IS simply wrong.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:02, Reply)

But it still seems wrong and exploitative to me to expect a grown adult (graduate or otherwise) to work for nothing.
"I put up with it, why shouldn't everybody else?" is not a valid argument.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:12, Reply)

What sort of useful computer work (for example) would I expect to get from an untrained 14 year old.
Essentially you're really giving them free training at the expense of one of your paid employees time.
Cash isn't the only for of renumeration; Skills and experience are worth something, thats what I'm trying to say.
For a year? You're joking. But for a few weeks/months it can make perfect sense.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:19, Reply)

I'm talking about a 22 year old, with a degree. And bills to pay.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:21, Reply)

And get a job coding. You'll have no issues getting one with ease. Hell string theory and quantum mechanics are a lot more complex than that.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:38, Reply)

I've got 3 years experience in C++ now, thanks to nepotism.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:40, Reply)

was having a poo before my animal physiology exam, nervous as hell, when finished I reached for the paper and on the first sheet was written
"arts degree - please take one"
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:38, Reply)

it's simply that for the period of their placement, they are not getting their 'benefits' for nothing. for some of them it could be quite an eye-opener, how the other half lives.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:26, Reply)

you don't get benefits while you are doing one of those.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:29, Reply)

off now to sign on now! im going to look so smug today in the dole. anyone fancy a pint im paying.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:11, Reply)

.."working unpaid for 30 hours per week for six months"
Leaving him what time to actually properly look for a paid job?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:40, Reply)

The economy would crumble ;)
We did outlaw slavery in this country, right?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:55, Reply)

and I've convinced myself that it was just some terrible nightmare.
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it would have given me experience, at least. But they didn't even want me to look for part time jobs. To claim JSA "you have to be looking for full time work," even though that would have got me off benefits and there was no way I was going to get a full time job with no experience.
Stupid system is stupid.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:55, Reply)

Part time is (as far as I'm aware) anything 15 hours or under.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:05, Reply)

but even 15 hours at minimum wage is more than JSA.
For the purposes of tax credits, it was 15 hours if you had kids, and 30 hours otherwise.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:06, Reply)

The council say 17.5+ hours for council tax exemption for full time students, and someone else I can't quite remember insists on 21+ hours.
I also got a bit of a telling off for refering to the part-time admin as part-time depsite the fact she works almost half the hours I do, because she works 15+.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:14, Reply)

also this was about the hours I was supposed to be looking for, not the hours I was already doing. Or they might have just been talking shit, or the rules might have changed since then, it was almost 10 years ago.
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( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:24, Reply)

but one time I printed off a couple of part-time job placements from the machine, and when I took them to my advisor he advised me that "you do realise we expect you to look for full time work," which surprised me then as much as it surprises you now.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:29, Reply)

as long as you declare any earnings when you sign on, so it can be deducted from your JSA. However, you still have to be seeking full-time work to continue to be eligible for JSA.
This is specific to JSA -- there are other benefits available to people working over 16 hours a week, or who are unable to work full-time.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:52, Reply)

www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/reilly-wilson-v-secretary-state.pdf
Paragraph 35 (shortest thing in the whole document) says: "The judge found no breach of article 4". (EU thing on slavery and forced labour)
The ruling is that the regulations exceeded the bounds allowed under relevant legislation to some extent, but that notification and disclosure was definitely insufficient.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:28, Reply)

I worked on this last year (I did the opening titles and a few other vfx bits). It's half an hour long but if you have time it came out rather well. Cheers.
(Marked NSFW because it might have some swears but I can't really remember)
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:44, Reply)

but the acting is awful, the storyboarding is lame, the sound is dire...
No-one seems to move - walking while talking is something even George Lucas can manage: trying sneaking and talking, or running and talking. The shots are poorly composed - there's an unnecessary thermos flask butting into shot in the first scene. The sound is dreadfully balanced, as though it was recorded straight in the room where the scene plays, and not a single second of post production was done on it - you should at least make sure the levels are similar, or appropriate: the sneaking character is talking louder than the geeky lady who's remotely instructing him.
There may be a good story to be told here, but I couldn't be bothered to watch it long enough to find out.
On the plus side, I did watch enough to try to put together few examples of how to improve it. You're welcome.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 14:51, Reply)

I appreciate the amount of detail you went into but obviously that stuff has nothing to do with me. I'm just trying to give the film some support.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 18:29, Reply)

Someone told me about this and I didn't believe them. A 1970s hardcore porn musical. It's one of the trippiest things I've ever seen. Here's a YouTube friendly snippet, the full movie's available online for free if you so wish. Just don't watch while on acid.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:31, Reply)

The film initially received an X-rating in 1976 and subsequently, an R-rating a year later with three minutes cut from the film. It was later re-released on VHS with a somewhat grandiose title roll preceding the movie noting that quite a bit of hardcore footage had originally been shot, but "could not be included" at the time.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:38, Reply)

if I remember right, that film has an incest scene, as they are tweedle dum and tweedle dee. I waited till the end (after watching the film several times for clarity) and lo, they have the same second name in the credits.
ishityounot.com
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:46, Reply)

This is hardly glass cock, it's more like gormless cunt.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:18, Reply)

I have seldom seen someone get so angry, so quickly, over so little.
Have you ever considered a career in the church?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:44, Reply)

I dislike you less after that Jack quote. Which is good.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 13:38, Reply)

...That's unfair, you can have a couple.
I must have missed it, I guess I was mortified by the street execution and accidentally it slipped my view. No harm done hopefully.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:39, Reply)

Any kind of report on it i can read instead of watching someone die?
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:27, Reply)

Cop pulls up alongside 3 men, one runs, cop shoots him in the back 6 times, then goes over to finish him off.
Summary execution by LAPD officer, who was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:49, Reply)

Another one of 'them' then.
I wonder if there'll be any riots? Suppose it depends on how much press coverage it gets, if it was a massacre in a school etc. It would be rolling news footage, maybe not so with this.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:51, Reply)

It was brought in to end the "grotesque spectacle" of public executions.
Oh how times have changed!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Punishment_Amendment_Act_1868
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:34, Reply)

You know that shit that BC was spouting about the need for the good guys to be armed? Well, police hunting for that bloke in California - you know, the policeman who appears to have gone a bit weird - have reportedly shot up two pickups on the grounds that... er... well... Who knows?
One, driven by two women delivering newspapers, was shot 46 times. Amazingly, neither was killed.
So, yeah. Thank goodness for the good guys with guns.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:46, Reply)

this would never have happened.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:48, Reply)

but only if you give gnus gnu guns too
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:07, Reply)

You could say I'm interested in gnus new gnu guns news
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:48, Reply)

In bending over backwards so as not to appear liberally-biased, the report gave LOTS of airtime to the "arm the good guys to solve the problem" lot. Seems there is a lot of money to be made in arming & training teachers too...
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:17, Reply)

half of me is considering tracking it down to watch now; the other half just knows what my response'd be.
( , Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:53, Reply)

1/ how many tooled-up, trigger-happy teachers Dallas now has &
2/ that lots of NRA-supporting gun suppliers/ranges are making an absolute killing off the back of Sandy Hook.
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