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This is a link post Banned Australian Advert

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Despite the slightly awkward bit with the refugees
someone who supports national industries and then gives all the profits to charity is all right in my book. I mean, I'd like to know which charities, and what his wage is, but the guy's got a sense of humour.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why was it banned ?
Seems ok to me. I'll email them and sort it out.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:56, , Reply)
This is a link post UN to investigate Obamas little death droid army
About bloody time this guy stopped getting a free pass to do what he likes.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post It won't end well.
Obama will be killed by Anakin, and then Disney will take over.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Because killing someone with a remotely-controlled plane is SOOOOO different to killing someone with a locally-controlled plane

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks for the legal tip
*attaches knife to remote controlled plane*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's more that he's using them in countries like Pakistan and Yemen where there is not a declaration of war
And as such are outside of the battlefield.

They are also a lot easier to use than say an aircraft that has a couple of pilots at risk and can be shot down by that nations air defenses.

There's apparently laws about who you can drop bombs on and how it's done.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post and they are killing more people

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post They appear to be killing a greater proportions of civilians.
I know that a pilot has a limited view of the ground and probably the same as the drone operator.
But I suspect there's an element of disconnection for the one not currently over the battle field.

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Also most of the drone attacks are carried out by the C.I.A
Who are civilians and not legally allowed to go round blowing people up IIRC
A lot of people picked up by the U.S are denied prisoner of war status because they're classed as civilians.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post if that figure of 891 civilians is to be believed that would be equal to 33 sandyhook shootings

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post And target identification is harder
So you end up killing the wrong people a lot more.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know if that is so
A fighter bomber can have quite low ground visabilty and the pilot has a lot more to do. Let's face it, bombing from the air in any format has always killed innocents or friends. More than once we sank our own ships during WW2.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post The CIA has regularly used air strikes outside of warzones, since the Cold War
I'm confused as to why it's suddenly being reported on, as an issue, just because the method of operating the aircraft has changed.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not on this scale, and it's never been as open and as numerous as to what obama is currently doing.
Also they may have asked for the strike but it was military personal pulling the trigger.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Squadrons of the USAF are assigned full-time to CIA missions
That's large-scale, and that's military personnell.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes military personal not civilians pushing the button.
Important legal difference.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post you were into C.I.A airstrikes before they sold out and became famous?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Those places are the battlefield.
Stop living in a teddy-bear world.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post I missed the declaration of war against Pakistan and Yemen.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well you should have been there then, like I was.
You haven't got a fucking clue about this topic.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post /thread

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post What because he agrees with you?
Or did I miss a meeting where he was declared lord high authority on all things?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah sorry it was on Tuesday afternoon, I'll try and get the minutes for you

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's a bullshit argument and you know it.
By that logic only people who have worked in westminster can comment on the actions of politicians.
Only other police officers can judge the actions of their colleagues.

I don't know what you did or saw there and I don't care.
Maybe you're military, mercenary, war corespondent, extreme tourist or whatever IRL
You may have seen some really horrific stuff that would turn me against anyone man, woman or child that calls their god Allah if I had gotten off my fat ass and done what you have.

I can still point to a lying fucking president that is engaging in a sloppy, undeclared war against a supposed ally killing a large amount of civilians that the left is giving a free ride on because he's not the other guy.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Of course you can point at whoever you like and say any manner of things.
You still haven't got a clue about this one.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post So in your opinion is what he is doing in Pakistan making things better or worse?
Because from my uneducated position he's making a lot of noise, killing a lot of people that didn't need killing and royally pissing off a nuclear power

Undermining the government there bolstering support for a religious right that has no business anywhere near nuclear weapons. Who's secret service (I have been told not seen for my own eyes of course) is supporting.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post More and more Taliban & their supporters should be killed by drone strikes.
This will enable the Pak military to keep better control their territory and enable many, many others to have a less shit time than they would otherwise. Still, if you know this and still want hundreds of thousands of innocent people to suffer at the hands of Islamist lunatics then fine, point your finger and scream/shout/etc, good for you. The kid shaggers, the 'girls should not learn to read' gang, hand/head choppers and the female genital mutilators are very pleased that you are inadvertently supporting their work.

Sleep well.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post I sleep very well and i'm glad you've shown me that because i'm against what he's doing I must be a Taliban supporter.
I mean that's the only 2 choices available isn't it?

And if you're concerned about all that then there's large amounts of Africans that could do with some of Obamas tender loving care via bombs. Genital mutilation of women,limb removing and raping of children has been very popular for a long time.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do you know what, I'm convinced by your powerful argument.
I'm now pointing at a picture of Obama and saying 'Your'e a very naughty boy!'

I love this teddy-bear world!
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Whilst you're being Mr High and mighty
I guess you don't do any illegal drugs shipped over from central America where the cartels have been killing men,women and children, raping, mutilating, kidnapping with guns paid for by people that like to stick coke up their noses.

Or taking any skag shipped over from Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Now you have gone mental.
Next, ask me whether I go whaling and seal clubbing or how about if I'm the captain of a slave ship?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're the one accusing people of supporting these people
By giving them money you're giving them material support.

Maybe you don't do anything like that and are pure as the driven snow and quite frankly it's not anyones business but yours but i've seen you talk about drugs many times here.

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If you been accusing me of supporting whaling and seal clubbing because I didn't support Obama bombing the shipyards of Japan and Norway.
And previously boasting about how you enjoy eating nice whale steak whilst wearing your baby seal fur coat then I may have brought that up too.

Anyway time to play on the motorway, it's been fun we should do this again sometime.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 17:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post "whomever"
*puts hands behind head, sits back in chair*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post 'whatever'

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 17:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yay!
Thank you for taking time out from massaging Amadeus' prostate with your tongue to respond to me.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 18:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post ...you can fight for democracy at home, and not in some foreign land.
Billy Bragg - Help save the youth of America
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 17:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post 'My cat's breath smells of cat food'
Ralph Wiggum - Springfield.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 18:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, it is.
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we would grow too fond of it." - American General Robert Lee. I wonder what he'd have to say about aerial bombing...

Drone operators are too distanced from the lives they are taking. The easier it is to kill without danger to oneself, the more likely one is to do it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 19:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think the fact that people join the army willingly...
...very aware that they may have to kill someone is more of an issue.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 21:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Boy will his wrist be slightly pinker after they give it a good slapping!
BRING OUT THE SLAPPING GLOVE! PREPARE OBAMA'S WRIST!
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd setting for this bringing back some of the hundreds of thousands of protesters that apposed Bush doing it.
Well I say Bush doing it, Obama seems to be doing it a hell of a lot more.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fetch.... THE COMFY CHAIR!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:06, , Reply)
This is a link post The Secret llife Of Super Heroes I made this!
So what do super heroes do in their down time when they’re not saving lives or fighting super villains? Find out here
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hi
If you're going to post links to your own site here, please take the time to hang around and engage with the other users a little. Otherwise people might think that you're just spamming, and start pelting you with rancid fruit.

Kthxbai

EDIT Also - as per feckler's observation, linking to someone else's work posted on your own site, credited or otherwise, does not costitute making it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^What Baz said^

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:58, , Reply)
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ahem www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en#q=b3ta
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 18:44, , Reply)
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hem www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en#q=reddit

just sayin' - can we afford to be unwelcoming?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 18:46, , Reply)
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Let's be generous and assume he clicked the little boxes because they meant "Yes I totally have read the terms & conditions, honest" and 'Please send me lovely spam'
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 20:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post not sure you made them, unless you'reGreg Guillemin
nice site though, I'll give you that.

And in exchange, please arrange for some of these to be delivered to my house:

www.mutantspace.com/andy-hope-1930-paintings-subvert-comic-books/
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post A little bit NSFW

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post NSFW? Stolen Credit?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post I bet there was an Arts Council grant involved here somewhere

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't know about that but I got to keep the crutches

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think there was a Conservative Party grant involved

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeh, he looks the type
www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/grant-shapps/31715
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:36, , Reply)
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every time I see that I think "that man's parents probably came to see that performance."
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Interestingly
I just had to Adblock that as I'm at work.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh come on, there's been a lot worse than that on here and board.
If I was worried about that I wouldn't touch b3ta during work ours.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post And they got Adblocked too

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post You know a lot of work networks send any adblocked images to I.T right?*
*may contain lies but that's how i'ld do it
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well, as the IT manager
That would be fine with me.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha!
*Rakes in chips*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sheep!'s films have taken a rather strange turn since I was last about.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post You didnt make these, did you?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hi, welcome to b3ta
I think you may have misunderstood what the 'I made this' option is for
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post ...and arguably, what the Links board is for.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Let's cut to the chase
I'm calling Spamcunt on this one.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:37, , Reply)
This is a link post Dolphin approaches divers for help
This is quite amazing, a wild dolphin seemingly "asking" divers for assistance after becoming entangled in a fishing wire and hook. I've not been round these here parts much for a few days so apologies if it's Silica Penis.

Although I couldn't give a fart really.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post That was quite amazing
click
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:59, , Reply)
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that was ace - most animals in distress are too stupid to understand you're trying to help them.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's debatable whether it knew what was going on.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post debatable, yes
but it certainly looks like it. It's actually staying still while the guy cuts it free. Mind you my dog did the same thing when she got a fishing hook in her paw last summer, she lay down in front of me and held her paw up so I could take it out.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post But you could argue that, usually, if you inflict pain on an animal
even it it's already injured, it will either attack you or at least attempt to do a runner. The dolphin went up for air and then came back, even though whatever it thought they were doing may have hurt.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Depends if it was really hurting or not.
Maybe he wasn't actually bothered that much and was just being friendly. Anthropomorphism is a powerful thing. Not forgetting it was those stupid humans who put that shit in the water to start with.
DaC & HaC
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post really remarkable. *click!*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post coming to a tuna fish tin soon

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 18:49, , Reply)
This is a link post labour-saving link for responding to Limmy threads I made this!
rons
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Couldn't you have just typed that text into the little box for text that is here?
Jus' saying! I like Limmy tho
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:50, , Reply)
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that's the cowards's way.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, now: I'm divided. You are utterly, utterly wrong about Limmy & Lee,
but have hit the nail firmly on the head with Red Dwarf.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:59, , Reply)
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I don't think we can be lovers any more.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:01, , Reply)
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*SOBS*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post This upsets me somewhat
I quite like Red Dwarf, have read most of the Discworld Novels and quite like Limmy. Stuart Lee however is an unfunny cunt. He's not smug as that would imply he had something to be smug about. He's delusional which isn't quite the same thing.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:36, , Reply)
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Limmy's hit and miss (generally hit). Stuart Lee is about as funny as Miranda Hart or Sarah Millican. Let him tour and release DVDs if he wants, I just don't want him on my TV.

Red Dwarf statement is generally true. It's up to you whether you think it's pejorative.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well, he's way more funny than you that's for sure

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:20, , Reply)
This is a link post Black Dynamite - Anaconda Malt Liquor Conclusion Scene
it all makes sense now!
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ha ha ha, amazing
this is my favourite bit.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdLq68m2G_o
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Heheh.
That's a great bit of the film.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post That whole film
barely raised a giggle from me. I think I probably needed to be more drunk/stoned. Might have to give it another go.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:25, , Reply)
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Nice to know it wasn't just me that found it unfunny.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post you have to be a brother like me
us blacks find this hillarious
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:29, , Reply)
This is a link post Lego accused of racism
no, ant-Islamist, no anti-Turk? Anti-Austrian? Starwarsist?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:27, , Reply)
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should've gone to a well known high street opticianz . lolz
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Dolland and Aitchison?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post *melts Embassy*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post ha!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post This reminds me of that guy who thought the Two Towers (film) was a reference to 9/11

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post it's not even a mosque any more - they banned worship of any kind in the 30s.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
Fuckwits can't even be bothered to find out if its still a mosque or not.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think Jabba banned worship in the monastery he took over

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bugger any racism look at the price of the fucker!
For that sort of money you can buy the rather excellent 4x4 crawler that I got for christmas.
And that has a Power motor, 2 servos and a I.R transmitter / receiver system with working 4 wheel drive steering system.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:46, , Reply)
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AND they expect you to put it together yourself!
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm more outraged that the 'article' calls him Hans Solo

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hans Solo
Porn star or Gestapo Officer
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Super Hans Solo

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Napoleon Solo's German cousin

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post It doesn't look much like Jabba's Palace either

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 15:18, , Reply)
This is a link post the soothing sound of 14 pitched down crying babies

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Eugh...that's horrible.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post So, am I allowed to wank to this or not?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post just for 5 minutes and then wash your hands for lunch

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is this a back-dated request?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post *unzips*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post The picture sums it up, really
Disturbing. Sounds like something from silent hill
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Silent Hills based on the Town of Centralia
Some good docs on youtube
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post sounds more like farmers raping a flock of sheep
I...ummm...imagine
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post We don't go to Ravenholm anymore.....

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Quite so, it's gotten far too touristy

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:37, , Reply)
This is a link post The Muslim Patrol® up to more jolly japes.
1/ Should the Met have released the victim's mugshot?
2/ What is the point of filming yourselves abusing members of the public & uploading? I would say to stir up trouble, but they do seem genuine.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Christ, that mugshot is the stuff of nightmares

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Speak for yourself.
As someone with a rampant eyebrow & buck-tooth fetish I am currently wanking my cock off.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post he should have arse raped them to death

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's your solution for everything isn't it?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pfft
that has to be a joke. Shirley?
I call troll, as I did before.
Even the mugshot seems a little off.

It's very Chris Morris like isn't it?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post My first thought with this
is that it's really going to confuse people like the EDL and the BNP.

"Let's go down East London and fight against these Muslims who are victimising people"
"Yeah! Who they been victimising?"
"Gays"
"Errr...."

And I totally agree. It does seem a bit unusual releasing a mugshot of a victim.
the full version within a week.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post That has to be the worst attempt at homophobia I've ever heard.
"You're a gay, mate. Get out of here you bloody fag"
I still say it's kids trying to stir up hatred.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Homophobia amongst muslim youth is a real problem
on the plus side, the BNP will have to take an increasingly pro-Gay stance, which will offend gay people, who will then pick on the Welsh, who will in turn pick on the Nepalese, who will in turn pick on the ambidextrous, who will in turn pick on people with an IQ of exactly 117, who will in turn...
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post *half-heartedly makes joke about "pro-gay stance"*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:14, , Reply)
This is a link post Have some music

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ahhh Lindsey... . Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey.... (sigh)
Cute as a button.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I really liked that. Listening to some of their other stuff now.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you like Lindsey Stirling AND like Skyrim
then you'll love her version of the Skyrim theme.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Just checked it out. Love it.
Also: WOULD
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's a given :)

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post The Zelda theme she did was good.
*the video and her cover of it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's actually impossible to play the electric violin without doing that weird stampy leg dance
The accelerometer needs that data to process tone quality FACT
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:03, , Reply)
This is a link post Aussie police arrest kid
but don't want him in the car because he's shit himself.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post New Zealanders are awesome
But they are not Aussies.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:08, , Reply)
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oh please, they don't have cars in New Zealand.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post they all look the same to me

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post pffft!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post From the pissflaps school of passive resistance?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:09, , Reply)
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goddam faeceniks.

sorry.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post It was half my fault, and it half wasn't...
I sat on it on a bench in Brighton...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srepqx3BgLA

Is this considered GC on here yet? And if not, why not?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post From a New Zealander that lives in Australia,
Fuck off.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Eh? What's that?
Something something sheep something?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes yes
Sheep are yummy. Mmmmm sheep.

"Shakes fist at Tabby"
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post *drops pants*
*backs up*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post xxx

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:33, , Reply)
This is a link post Psychic Sally on the ball
Obvious mishearing in earpiece is obvious.

Bonus Sally fail: www.youtube.com/watch?v=K14sIoE8qT4
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:45, , Reply)
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ace. 6th sense meets birds of a feather.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Arf

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:50, , Reply)
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I can see fat people
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post She's a nasty parasite completely without morals, compassion or empathy.
Imo, she should be locked up. Not sure for what, but would make me happier.
...Fraud?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Obtaining money by deception.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Personally, I'm against it.
But the people who go to these things know what they're signing up for and often go away feeling a little bit better about themselves and all that, so there are positives. Obviously she'd making money from vulnerable people which is morally corrupt.
I've just finished reading Ian Rowland's book "Full Facst about Cold Reading" or something, and it's really worth a go if you're interested in learning more about this stuff. He's an entertaining writer and very cynical about these charlatans (whilst admitting he can't prove that they're not 'psychic').
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hmmmm. It's tricky.
I would argue that taking advantage of people recently bereaved & unable to think clearly through grief is an exceptional circumstance when government should step in to mollycoddle a bit.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post this ^
at the very least a mandated Disclaimer and warning 'For entertainment purposes only' or some BS much similar to what vitamin suppliments have to do here. "not intended to treat any illness" (not that anyone would listen)
forgive me i am rambling... i have yet to have my coffee and i hate these morons and the people that buy into it.
sigh
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post I have seen homeopathy pills for sale here with no such disclaimer :(
There are different ones for different things, even though they are all just sugar pills.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post shame, i would have thought you guys would have that one covered before us :(

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:03, , Reply)
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Have to disagree. People like her don't become millionaires because people know what they're signing up for. It's because the vast majority who line her pockets genuinely believe she's psychic. I have relatives who believe in this shit. If they haven't been to one of Sally's shows, then they've certainly been to lots of others. I doubt there are stats, but my gut tells me that this sort of shit seems very attractive to Catholics, for some reason.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think officially the Catholic church takes a very dim view of this sort of thing.
Or at least they should do.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:55, , Reply)
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of course, but Catholic people tend to believe in a lot of stuff they're not really supposed to. Very superstitious lot also.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Surely it's the Catholisism that is their biggest superstition?*
*applies to all religions
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post no,
superstition and religion are different things.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's an opinion

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post no it isn't.
they are defined differently. But you just go "hurr hurr religious people are stupid amirite AMIRITE" if you want, I won't bother to engage you, even if everybody else rallies round to slap you on the back.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Superstition
and organised Superstition

Touching wood? Religious origin
Throwing spilled salt? Religious origin
Fear of 13? Religious origin
etc

You're right, they are so different
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post none of those things are of religious origin.
you'll find plenty of Christians doing these things but you won't find any sanction for them in the Bible, or anyone preaching them from the pulpit.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:39, , Reply)
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Touching the wood of the cross
The devil jogging your arm
The necessity to prove the sanctity of the number 12

How are they not of religious origin?

Psychic Sally is no more of a charlatan than the organised religions of this world. It's just they're in a bigger gang
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post touching wood has nothing to do with the cross,
it's to do with pre-Christian pagan reverence of tree spirits. I never even heard that explanation.
The "devil" might be a character in Christianity but there's no Christian logic to the salt thing.
Nobody has to prove the sanctity of the number 12. What does that even mean?

What you seem to be doing is confusing things that religious people made up, with things that come from religion. Isaac Newton was religious, and well into the occult as well, I guess calculus must be superstition.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post
And what you seem to be doing is suggesting that there is a difference between "things that religious people made up" and "things that come from religion"

Religion is just something that religious people made up
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed, the current books of the bible were cherry picked from a much larger assortment of religious writings.
They essentially "made it up" like a collage is made from cut out bits from other photos.

But hey, people are welcome to believe whatever they want so long as the leave my embassy alone.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post going a bit off on a tangent here,
but I've read some of the other books that weren't included. Some of them are very strange. Bel and the Dragon is a highlight.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well i'm glad they filtered out all the strange and only left the sensible ones in.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post haha
it's all relative I suppose.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Religion is something that religious people made up,
ok let's accept that. But that doesn't mean that everything a religious person makes up is religion.

What I'm trying to say is, superstition is a specific sort of made up thing, that isn't made up because of someone's religious beliefs (although it may be rationalised with them) but can be made up by anybody for any reason. The simple explanation is that people are just weird. And a lot of superstitions might have originally been jokes, carried on because they were funny, and then carried on because they were familiar. Like the memes we have on here.

There is no concept of good or bad luck in Christianity. You won't find any discussion of black cats or breaking mirrors in the Theology books, other than perhaps to condemn such beliefs.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Macbeth!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post Now, I'm *really* going to regret this, but:
How so? Unless by religion you mean "institutionalised religion". I think, at the core, they're fundamentally the same thing.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Superstition is really more like a sort of naive science,
things that are "bad luck," sympathetic magic etc are laws of nature rather than caused by supernatural forces or beings. Quite a lot of people I know are superstitious but also atheists, new agers typically describe themselves as naturalists. It's nonsensical causality resulting from various cognitive biases, otherwise called "magical thinking".

Religion is a belief in some kind of intelligent purpose behind the universe, that transcends it, and is due some kind of worship. I don't know if an institution is necessary for someone to be religious.

A lot of religious people are superstitious, though, as some religions give a kind of outlet for it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Now, I'm not wanting an argument on metaphyics with you,
but surely every point you've made is subjective semantics, nothing more.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know how a point about the meaning of words could be anything else.
Although actually I find it very hard to define religion. Superstition seems far easier to put my finger on, but the problem with religion is that it doesn't form a coherent class of things. I don't know why Buddhism should be a religion, and communism not one. There's no god in Buddhism, it's more like a sort of folk psychology.

I think it's made more difficult by the fact that superstition and religion aren't mutually exclusive. You can be both. In fact they seem to exist in a sort of cycle, religions can turn into superstitions once people forget what they are about but carry on going through the motions. (Is Christmas a superstition?) While superstitions can become religions if they get rationalised and worked into a metaphysical framework. Certain religious ideas, for instance, Karma, seem quite superstitious. See Just World Hypothesis.

Maybe an example would help. I think if you believe there is a god who can answer your prayers, that's religions. If you believe in "the power of prayer", as if praying had power in itself without divine intervention, that's superstitious. It's not just "believing in things you can't see". It's believing that the things you can see somehow react in spookily (in)convenient ways (which is often confirmed by experience because of confirmation bias).

Another example. I've never heard of anyone say that homeopathy worked because of gods, it's because "water has memory" somehow; they rationalise it pseudoscientifically.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post it's the old neolithic shamanism coming back out from under the catholic rug,
under which it was swept from the 4th century onwards. I don't know why these kinds of beliefs are coming back into fashion now, but it's much like the last days of the Roman Empire.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post *invests in fiddles and fire extinguishers*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:18, , Reply)
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well, I won't claim to know anything about that, but coming from a family of Catholics, all the women (it does tend to be women for some reason) in my extended family, and many (most?) of their Catholic female friends have all visited psychics, most have at least 2 or 3 Doris Stokes books, watch and chat about Derek Acorah's latest TV show etc...not a scientfic study but I know a lot of wmen and most of the Catholic ones seem to lap up this 'beyond the grave' stuff.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post non-Catholics and even non-Christians seem no less taken in by it, in my experience.
it seems paradoxical that people who don't believe in God should believe in immortal souls but they still do. My mum believes that every dog she gets is the reincarnation of the last one. My gran believes in Tarot and auras etc.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I'm not saying its exclusively johnny-dodgers, but they do seem to be more prone to it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know I need to see a graph.
but it does seem to be mostly women
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post
her libel case starts in June, greatly looking forward to it, assuming she doesnt change her mind at the last minute.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post I should be very surprised indeed if she goes through with it.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post
thankyou Psychic Tabby
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post I HAVE DROPPED MY TROUSERS & AM CURRENTLY PRESSING MY BUMHOLE AGAINST YOUR SARCASTIC COMMENT
Interesting article here, not that you deserve it.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post Surely she can see the outcome...

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Only if she heard over the earphone correctly
"I hear labia case? Does anybody here have a labia case they know of?"
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post
ha!

"I'm getting...sidekick sammy is a fork in Kent? does that mean anything to someone in the audience?"
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post haha!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post
sadly, this was already in my favourites...

www.sallymorgan.tv/News/sallys-response-to-edinburgh-allegations.html

edit: they 404'd the original page, new link above
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Paedophillia?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post DONT MIND IF I DO
*nonces*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post we used to have laws against witchcraft
that could be used in this kind of situation.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, we used to burn them, didn't we
I think that's a just punishment for what she does

(may be personal as she takes £20 off my mum at least once a year)
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Jenny Eclair is a psychic now?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post sickening
is she still doing it?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post getting her toe stuck?, no not anymore, she choked to death on a piece of toast
*gets coat*
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post I could turn a blind eye to someone shooting the cunt.
All psychics are frauds and should be treated with all the contempt we can muster.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was invited to attend a charity psychic event by a fellow busdriver who claims he's a psychic
he didn't read my mind which was "Fuck off you fake!" - I politely declined saying I was working on that day.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:01, , Reply)
This is a link post Something for everyone here (SFW)
Germans, muscle men and boobies. The perfect news item?
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post bet they feel like right* tits now
*left
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post haha
top comment... "I don't know but I've been told, slapping my chest grows my boobs twofold."
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post *unzips*

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:11, , Reply)
This is a link post How to tell if your dog is Puerto Rican.
Made me giggle.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post That is a whole
heap of goodness.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 19:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post CUBANO
That's a Cuban Dog Music and dance.
very good stuff though.
(, Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha
that made me dance!
(, Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's funny because
if it doesn't dance then it hangs by the neck until it is dead.
(, Fri 25 Jan 2013, 18:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post if you watch until the end
It drops down to all four legs and is fine.
(, Sat 26 Jan 2013, 8:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd like to apologise to the makers of this excellent video
for my over-zealous comments which I unreservedly retract. No chihuahuas were hanged or in danger of being hanged. More's the fucking pity.
(, Sat 26 Jan 2013, 10:56, , Reply)
This is a link post Washing machine for your pussy

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post The only person who'd put a cat in that machine
is someone who realy, realy hated cats.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post So when are you opening your cat laundrette?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hey!
The only cats I'd put in that machine are Herbs' cats, because they are evil & ugly.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post What about these cats The LOVELY Tabby?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21166326
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hello, the LOVELY Stuj.
I couldn't watch all of that. Suffice to say that that gallery, everyone inside & anyone involved should be nuked into orbit for such shameless cuntery.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post How to distress the hell out of your pet.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Quickest way to give a cat a heart attack, I suspect.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I wouldn't want to be the one who opened the box
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Did expect a 'face hugger' at the end.........

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, Schrodinger was really pissed off the last time.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post needs a fast spin cycle

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:37, , Reply)
This is a link post This icon is shit.
You can probably guess what I originally searched for.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post Spaniard cock?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Horshack inkblot test?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is that like the Rorschach test
but all you see is horses
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:44, , Reply)
This is a link post The Mash's guide to updating your CV
Very popular site, yes, so you might have come across this already. But I've just spent a very happy minute chuckling at this.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post class
love The Mash :)
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:02, , Reply)
This is a link post Michael Winner (1935-2013) I made this!
Love him or hate him, a national treasure passed away this week. A brief exchange of Tweets hints at what a film director recommends when he has lost control of film rights and a film is unavailable to the public.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Any idea who owns the rights to this masterpiece?
Online campaign could easily take off, Michael Winner still has a lot of love.

Perhaps an online petition to start with?

*edit*

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0062KMDQ6
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post
DVD-R Note: This product is manufactured on demand when ordered from Amazon.com.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post That sir is appalling
This isn't mentioned on the mobile amazon site!
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post
arr on the full Amazon site it is, but saying that at the time of the exchange even that wasn't available - I didn't know Amazon knocked out legal knockoffs, so I've learnt something today.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post We should shit through their letterbox!
That, will definitely learn 'em.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post
great minds think alike !
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:03, , Reply)
This is a link post Dog plays spoon.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Glass Meet Cock

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Cunt meets internet.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pot meets kettle

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post horse meats burger!

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post bum meets chum

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post meat meets me

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Savile meets Morgan

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Dog sees rabbit

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Demotivation meet B3ta

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post How passé.
You woke up, got washed, had something to eat and a nice cup of tea, maybe had a dump, got dressed, switched on computer, logged on to b3ta, and wrote 'Glass Meet Cock'.

What a fulfilling life.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post hey, don't knock it
the very first thing I typed this morning was "arse"
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post
typed madly fingered
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Mr Flaps
I live in Australia. Been up for *hours*...

But the link you posted was on the popular page. And it was posted by Scrunt.

Cheers
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 13:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post poor dog has a nuerological problem like distemper, or something.
(also not GC the one that was here last time was over 1:30 long, though i suspect it was the same clip on loop over and over)
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:40, , Reply)
This is a link post Aussie B3tans: Kindle Paperwhite has suddenly become available
directly through Amazon too. Been waiting a bloody age for this, imagine there's a few other Aussies on here that might be interested - no idea how long stocks will last.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Australians know how to read?

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ute manuals
and picture books of Fosters "beer".
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post No one inside
Australia drinks Fosters, only you foreigners are stupid enough to sell it to.

Down here we drink decent beer. Try a Coopers Pale Ale. It's bonza mate. (Nb we never say that)
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Coopers Pale is awesome
First brewer to realise you don't need to put preservatives in beer, as it doesn't have a chance in hell of being around long enough to go off.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Coopers clear is really lovely too.
Also if you like dark beer try their stout. But a warning its 6.3 or something crazy like that.
www.coopers.com.au/?coopers150=true#/the-order/the-hall-of-beer
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post 6.3? Pah!
This is my tipple of choice
www.robinsonsbrewery.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2/category/22/
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post try mountain goat, if you havent already.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post incredible really
Fosters have done a wonderful job of tricking the English, Americans and Canadians into thinking Australians drink Fosters when it's practically impossible to buy in Australia. It is, after all, brewed in the UK.

Even to the point of buying most of the in-stadium advertising at the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games - much to the bemusement of thousands of ticket-holding Australians taking their seats.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Great, maybe now they can read a book on how to brew beer properly.

(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post only people in England drink Fosters
and you brew it yourselves.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post You can't even make Fosters over there? *shakes head*
Although some of your wines are rather good.
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post devils advocate
the wine used to be incredibly shit, although I'm not old enough to remember that mulledwine.com.au/2010/08/a-brief-history-of-wine/
(, Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:13, , Reply)

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